Alleged gunman faces nine charges including second-degree murder in New York state case
Luigi Mangione is due to appear in Manhattan state court on Monday for the first day of a potentially weeklong proceeding to weigh the legality of evidence gathered during his arrest after the killing of a prominent healthcare executive.
Mangione was apprehended last December in the murder of senior United HealthCare figure Brian Thompson last December. In addition to state-level charges, he faces a Manhattan federal court case.
Thompson’s brutal slaying on the streets of New York city triggered an intense manhunt for the killer, but also sparked an outpouring of anger at the practices of the US for-profit healthcare industry. Since his arrest Mangione has attracted some enthusiastic supporters, both online and at his court appearances.
Can someone help me understand? It honestly sounds like he really did it but very well could get off on a technicality which to me is fine. I’ve had so many loved ones kicked off health care during terminal diseases and I despise for-profit model of the industry.
But it really seems like he did it, yet I see so many people questioning that. I’m just curious why that is.
Basically it’s people saying:
Because the government cant/won’t say how they are so sure it’s him
Couple that with how the wealthy never face consequences in our justice system due to their ability to pay money to lawyers.
And the fact that people want this to be decided by the letter of the law isn’t extreme by any means, it’s literally the point of law. And why people are (rightfully) outraged that they’re trying to include terrorism charges.
It’s just the cops fucked up so much, they’re not going to be able to legally prove anything.
It’s OJ all over again
Difference is OJ murdered his ex wife he regularly physically abused and her lover.
Luigi wasn’t there to begin with. He was chilling at some other dude’s house the whole time.
This is a suppression motion for unlawful search and seizure. To call this man’s 4th amendment rights a “technicality” is some Law and Order copaganda bullshit.
These suppression motions are already very difficult to win. Mr. Mangione will have to show not only that his rights were violated, but also that the cops would not have found the evidence through a different, legal means. So if he does win, it will not be “on a technicality.” It’s just the system ensuring that everyone’s constitutional rights are respected.
People are questioning it because the initial CCTV pictures of the murderer do not match Mangione’s features. They look similar enough for it to be pulled in as evidence - and further supported by the items confiscated from him during his arrest, but then again people are questioning the legitimacy of those things too - but the differences are visible enough for even a mid tier lawyer to argue that the CCTV recording is not of their client.
He is just a fall guy because they were determined to punish someone for the crime of daring to fight back against the ruling class. Just the claim that he was found with the murder weapon and a manifesto proving motive is enough to conclude that.
Even the most insane of murderers don’t carry around everything needed for conviction while out for lunch days later.
In addition to some alleged incongruity of the evidence, I think a lot of people actually think he did it but they want him to get away with it/don’t think what he did was wrong, and throwing mud in the water is a way to show support for him, albeit a somewhat disingenuous one.
He didn’t do it because I did.
Looks like I’m going to get away with it, too ;)
Part of it is that people are idiots and think if they keep saying “He didn’t do it, wink wink” it will mean anything (other than internet points (on a site that doesn’t track them…)).
Personally? I… don’t know if the world is a better place with Luigi Mangione out on the streets (seriously… actually read up on him) but I also have zero qualms with someone not being punished for offing a monster.
But that isn’t what is going to happen here. Some of the evidence will likely get thrown out. But there is also a LOT more evidence that we, the public, don’t know about. For example, you can very much bet that a MUCH more rigorous timeline, supported by Flock™ camera footage, of him in NYC has been documented. That combined with the actual footage of him (allegedly) doing it and the witnesses like the taxi driver (?) and hotel clerk?
He will probably escape some of the charges. He will not be walking free. And… he’ll probably get suicide’d in his cell within a year of being made an example of why you don’t kill the oligarchs.
Luigi Mangione fixed most of the bugs in Civ 6 regarding the UI.
Can you elaborate? I did read some when all this started and didn’t come across anything too bad.
A LOT of his social media included very weird views on human sexuality (e.g. sex toy bans) and outright praise for the unabomber. I’ve also seen a lot of claims that he espoused “anti-woke” ideologies but most of the sources I am finding are sketchy as hell. Although the LA Times article at least links to what I think is his twitter (that I personally can’t verify as I don’t have twitter)
https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2024-12-14/luigi-mangione-politics-united-healthcare-shooting
A LOT of people want to view him as some champion of leftism. And… it is well worth remembering that a leftist political ideology does not mean much regarding views on social justice (as many people of color and trans folk can attest…). But the reality is that he probably is a lot closer to the “groyper” who shot kirk than anything else. Just another kid who got radicalized in deeply confusing and contradictory ways. And while I am not going to lose too much sleep over the outcome of HIS actions… I am increasingly terrified of how many batshit insane radicals with guns are out there whose ideology can be summed up as “4chan”.