• Steve Dice@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    If you go to CyberPower (nothing special about them, it’s just the first system integrator that popped into my head). You can find a prebuilt with a RX6700 (which is anywhere from 50 to 70 percent faster than the “custom” GPU on the Steam Machine*) for $1049. It would be monumentally stupid to price the cube anywhere near $1000.

    *I’m using an RX7600M to estimate the performance for the Steam Machine since it has exactly the same specs.

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      2 days ago

      Plus those Cyberpower PC’s have to factor in a Windows license into the cost.

      Honestly, the Steam Machine needs to be less than $800 to be viable.

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        2 days ago

        I just threw together a PC with an 8500g and a 7600 (not the mobile version) and it came to about $780 while being about 30% faster. I think $750 is the most the market would bear but, honestly, it should just be $650.

        Edit: Oh shit, I forgot the US doesn’t include tax on their prices. Those $780 are converted from local currency and after taxes. Sales tax in Mexico is 16% so the real price would be around $673. I changed my mind, Valve would be delusional if they price this a cent above $650.

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          2 days ago

          While I agree it is cheaper to build your own it also wont be as small as the Steam Machine.

          It’s just that Valve has made a point that it will be priced like a PC, if it is priced like a PC then $650 is far too close to current console pricing. I want to be wrong here, I want it to be cheap and really push Linux into the mainstream. I’m just far too cynical and I expect it to be the most pointless product until proven otherwise.

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            2 days ago

            $650 is far too close to current console pricing

            I don’t think it is, though. $650 is 44% over the $450 MSRP of the PS5. If we look at “PC prices” (whatever they meant by that) the desktop I specced outperforms it by 30% to 50%. That puts the size tax for the Steam Machine at up to 45%, which would be hard to justify when laptops with 4050s are regularly on sale. Pricing it above $650 means you can go to BestBuy right now and get an HP Victus for $550 and have a spare $100 for a controller. Then you’ll have a PC that is faster, smaller and cheaper than a Steam Machine. This has to be under $700 to succeed. Although… Valve has been fostering a sort of Nintendo effect where they could price it at $5k and send you a dildo along with the PC so you can go fuck yourself and people would still buy it.

            Fun fact: I was looking for laptops with a 7600M to get a more direct price to performance comparison but I wasn’t able to find a single one. Guess now we know what they mean by “semi-custom GPU”.

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                1 day ago

                The digital PS5 is $450 and the Xbox Series X has about 15% of the marketshare, proving people won’t stand for ridiculous prices.

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                  20 hours ago

                  No, the disc driveless PS5 is $500. I’m looking at it right now on the playstation website. The PS5 Pro is $750.

                  $650 is console pricing now. You don’t have to like it but that is the reality.

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                    20 hours ago

                    Seems like they changed it two months ago. That still puts a $650 price tag 30% above the PS5 MSRP so no, $650 isn’t console pricing.