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    I use mint on two different machines with Nvidia GPUs. One is a several year old desktop with a 1080 and the other is a two year old Dell laptop with a discrete nvidia GPU in addition to the Intel one on the processor.

    Now granted I don’t play a ton of games right now, and when I do they usually aren’t cutting edge, but I don’t recall many problems so far. I use NVENC for Jellyfin and editing videos more often, and that has been pretty smooth. The one issue I had was related to that though. Kdenlive (flatpak) updated and could no longer export videos because it was looking for a newer version of something my mint-supplied nvidia driver wasn’t yet updated to have.

    Trying to install a newer driver manually was a whole damn thing though, so I rolled back the kdenlive flatpak to the one that worked.

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      It was a horror show a decade or two back when I first tried Linux. I feel like this meme is just too late or just old.

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      Yeah, I used a 1070 on arch for years without any issue, recently switched over to an Intel arc gpu and that gave me way more problems (admittedly most of it was my “fault” for being on an old mbr scheme, needing to enable rebar, and needing to switch from xorg to wayland… but that’s just what happens when a graphics card is so stable you don’t feel the need to reinstall your os or change anything major). I am not hired by Nvidia nor do I support their business practices when it comes to making development on Linux difficult or creating proprietary standards like cuda, just stating my personal experience with their drivers.

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    my only issue nowadays is stuttering on wayland.

    installing it is actually pretty straightforward on ubuntu.

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        eh, its not that bad nowadays if you arent doing anything fancy. could be better, could be worse.

        ill still favor AMD on linux, but nvidia users can use linux now without that much friction. exception is maybe optimus laptops.

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          It’s definitely better than say a year ago, but it’s always a new small issue. Like suspend is not working, or shutting the monitor off crashes the graphics stack etc.

          I really hope they get their shit together and build a solid wayland support at some (not too distant) time. But the amount of issues is small enough for me that I’ve switched to it.

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            they are building nvk. it seems, in typical fashion for them, they are letting the community do it. we are already using the open kernel driver and it works well, and the community is also working on reimplementing it properly.

            seems like things will indeed fall into place in a not too distant time.

            i’m also not having issues beyond the stutter just yet. in any case, looking forward to get my radeon back from the repair shop.

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    So true! Last week I did a fresh install of Mint with the recommended nvidia drivers, and only installed Brave, Steam, Discord, and Vampire Survivors on my 3080 PC… 15 FPS at best. Tried the open source nvidia drivers and, which stopped Steam from working (so weird). Re-installed steam and Vampire Survivors and still couldn’t get anything to work (even tried, and failed, to run a few other games). Boy it would be nice if nvidia put in more work to support Linux. 2025 will be the year for Team Red!

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      LOL isn’t that the truth. I wanted my desktop to not bother chugging watts through my 3090 and generating excess heat when barely KDE Plasma and a browser is running, but trying to set up GPU offload just left me with a blank terminal screen.

      Thank God for the geniuses who implemented Snapper rollbacks in OpenSUSE! Otherwise, the Nvidia drivers in the repos work fine and I’m scared to touch them…

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        Is the power consumption really that much more? I guess there is a significant difference but it might still not cost much.

        In a desktop you use the powerful GPU all the time.

        In my use case the laptop is always attached to a charger.

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      Works fine for me? (opensuse tumbleweed)

      Didn’t take much effort, hybrid mode got implemented automatically and then I just manually added a widget for quick switching between only integrated graphics, hybrid mode and only nvidia (basically never using that one, just either integrated or hybrid)

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        That’s nice! I’m glad it glad it worked so well for you. That’s the thing about configuration, sometimes it works without much effort!

        I wish everyone shared your experience, but I guess it’s a YMMV kind of thing, right?

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          I’m generally very happy with opensuse tumbleweed, so far the best desktop distros I’ve tried. Very polished and user friendly.

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    I never understood this. Maybe because I stick with basic distros like Ubuntu or Mint. But I have not had this issue.

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        I saw a meme about sound cards recently and thousands of likes on social media.

        And I wonder if it’s people up voting because they remember that era, if it’s bots, or if it’s just people who kinda get the joke and don’t want to be left out?

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          most likely the last one. especially in computer science, there’s always a lot of people who sorta understand and just want to be included. that’s why most computer science memes are “JavaScript bad” or “python slow” or other super basic mass opinions. I feel like it’s super rare I see an actually original computer science meme

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        I haven’t had issues for about a decade. I haven’t had an nvidia card for about a decade either. I think the two may be connected.

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          I will say as someone who uses a NVIDIA card gaming through proton works flawlessly. Certain apps may have bugs. I’m having this one issue where H.265 videos don’t play properly in VLC or MPV.

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      It depends a lot on which specific GPU you have and whether it’s a laptop.

      New-ish GPU in a desktop with the monitor plugged directly into the GPU? Easy to get working, literally a checkbox on most distros.

      1000 series GPU or older in a laptop and you need reasonable battery life and/or some “advanced” features like DP Alt-Mode? Good luck.

      Edit: Also, no Wayland until very recently. Possibly never, depending on the age of the GPU.

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      Same, I’m on OpenSUSE, nVidia hosts its own OpenSUSE repo. As far back as 8 years(for me) you add the repo and add the driver. Everything works.

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        Saaame. There was a while there where Wayland didn’t work on the repo version so I had to go full manual, but otherwise it’s been almost perfect now, Wayland and all.

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      I used Ubuntu for many years on an nvidia machine and had a shit ton of nvidia problems, but I haven’t used Ubuntu for a long time now so I would hope there’s been progress. The experience has made me a lifelong AMD user since though.

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      Fedora here and same. It’s just a few commands to get started and everything else works fine

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    I’ve never had trouble installing them. Getting them to work after an update is another story.

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    Installing’s easy. Does it work? No 🫠 I still can’t daily drive linux because how shitty NVIDIA’s drivers are

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      Depends on what distro you used. What’s the distro, driver version and graphic card did you try?

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        NixOS (same problem, all distros) 570 drivers, RTX 3060

        Currently on hyprland, same issue with sway/other wlroots compositors (KDE/GNOME work fine-ish, but i prefer compositors and they’re full of worse NVIDIA bugs on their own)

        The problem’s with proton (or DXVK? Dunno) and how input delay increases heavily with V-Sync enabled. Unfortunately i have to use v-sync, so just dealing with it isn’t a choice for me, sorry

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          Did you enable all the hyprland NVIDIA tweaks im running a 3070 on nix hypr and had issues but after setting all the nvidia tweaks and env variables I’ve had no issue with vsync and playing games with bad input lag and I play competitive shooters so I can tell

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            If by tweaks you mean:

            MODULES=(… nvidia nvidia_modeset nvidia_uvm nvidia_drm …)

            options nvidia_drm modeset=1 fbdev=1

            env = LIBVA_DRIVER_NAME,nvidia

            env = __GLX_VENDOR_LIBRARY_NAME,nvidia

            Then yeah :/ Could you possibly share the relevant parts of your config please? TIA

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          complains about linux being complicated

          uses NixOS

          I think I found your issue… Most Linux distros just work nowadays.

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            I’m not complaining that linux is complicated, though. I can use NixOS just fine. I’m talking about NVIDIA drivers being broken, and i’ve tried multiple distros.

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      I can daily drive linux just fine on 3060ti, the Ollama CUDA AI acceleration works without a single issue straight out of the box.

      I do want to be able to game on my main rig though, but that’s what I have a laptop with an Intel low-end integrated GFX card for.

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        I installed a Nvidia 3060 earlier this year. Ran the command, rebooted the system, everything works fine.

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          I installed it on silverblue earlier this year and it was almost fine except firefox would randomly crash all the time, which was frustrating. Also gaming is a whole mess with nvidia. I miss my AMD card

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        I still cant sleep my computer with a 2070 Ti. I just shut it down and start it up every time, which is pretty shitty.

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          Not trying to criticize you or anything, just genuinely asking - why is it so much worse to turn your computer off when you’re done with it than putting it to sleep?

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      It’s not just you. Perhaps it depends on the distro?

      I just had to click around a little when setting up Ubuntu 22.04 and it’s done.

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        I currently use pop!_os and that just came with them, but even then, most other distros I tried it was one command or one click in the package manager and done

        I know the open source ones are a lot more finicky so maybe also depends on what you get :3

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      It’s mostly when you’re trying to optimize for power on a non standard distro. By default, they’re kinda a power hog but you can sorta turn off the gpu when not in use, it’s just fininky because Nvidia doesn’t want open source drivers that can go that low level. Thankfully don’t have to worry about it anymore after getting a non-Nvidia laptop for my latest daily.

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        Funny thing is… I was gonna get my PC with an AMD card, but because the one I wanted was out of stock I got upgraded (depending on how you want to look at it) to an nvidia one :3

        I may go AMD next time I swap it, but as I’ve not had any problems as of yet, im not in a major rush

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          My advice is to generally opt for integrated on mobile, unless you absolutely need them. I did on my last computer (training ml models can often be sped up with Cuda cores), but the trade off was it breaking three times when updating my Nvidia drivers (had to chroot in an manually update, huge pain to deal with), so I specifically went away from Nvidia drivers on my latest laptop.

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      As long as I revert to the open source driver before doing major OS upgrades I haven’t had issues either in years. Last time I tried AMD though it was a shit show.

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      Same here. I’ve always grabbed the latest drivers from the Nvidia page and installed the dot run file manually from a command line. From there everything just works.

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    Can I ask for help here?

    I’ve got 3 displays, right…a 1080p75 and a 4k60/444 on my Nvidia GeForce 1660, and a 1080p60 on my onboard graphics (AMD).

    Works reasonably under X11, but can’t get 4k60 (only 30) in Wayland. And not really sure I’ve got 4:4:4, either. Seems prime-select keeps forgetting my setting in Wayland, too.

    I’m using tumbleweed with plasma as my desktop.

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      Run this command:
      sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /

      Probably shouldn’t be asking for tech support in the Linux meme community.

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      Not the right place to ask. Try the official forums of your distro, or one of the many Linux communities on Lemmy.

      4k60/444

      Is that HDR? I can tell you right now that HDR is still experimental on all Wayland compositors (Plasma seems to be the farthest along, but still not reliable), and will never be implemented in X11.

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        Not quite HDR, similar but different.

        4:4:4 refers to chroma subsampling. Essentially how much bandwidth is available for chroma and luma. 4:4:4 allows for an 4x2 array of pixels to each be unique colors, which isn’t possible with 4:2:2 or 4:2:0.

        It’s a feature you really want when using a 4k TV for a monitor (as I am) because without it, text can be very fuzzy and difficult to read. Especially certain color combinations (i.e. red-on-black, as Konsole will do when there’s an error).

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      I think it’s because of the mismatched refresh rates. I think NVIDIA is working on a fix. But that may be outdated info i’m remembering. NVIDIA has said they are committed to fixing the remaining issues with Wayland support.