france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
In the U.S., everything is right wing and there are no liberals. The Overton window in the U.S. is so far to the right that even basic civil rights, democracy, and freedoms that exist elsewhere are seen as radical.
Right-wingers and capitalists have rebranded their system as “neoliberalism,” pretending it is about freedom. But real freedom: civil rights and human rights, democracy, secularism, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion… they cannot exist under capitalism, where a small class rules over the majority. True democracy means workers control society, not just picking which capitalist will exploit them.
france and germany have a better chance at keeping their fascists out of their government than the united states; if they manage to keep that firewall up and keep importing russian energy through back doors, i can see them surviving.
Seems like both France and Germany are taking a hard right actually, with RN and AfD being the most popular parties respectively. They do both want to restore relations with Russia however, and that would be a path for France and Germany to survive. However, I expect that the EU centre is going to collapse, and without either France or Germany the EU is as good as dead anyways.
the RN and the AfD were the fascists i was alluding to and i’m drawing hope from episodes like the french left & liberal voters unifying against the RN to win their last election and the german conservatives & protesters alike rejecting their leadership’s intriguing with the AfD.
Didn’t the French liberals immediately stab the left in the back and side with the right?
macron did and he’s a centrist.
Are centrists not liberal?
I don’t know how centrist translates since I’m an American and American liberalism is Western European center-right.
Fwiw: it seems so or at least a LOT of overlap.
In the U.S., everything is right wing and there are no liberals. The Overton window in the U.S. is so far to the right that even basic civil rights, democracy, and freedoms that exist elsewhere are seen as radical.
Right-wingers and capitalists have rebranded their system as “neoliberalism,” pretending it is about freedom. But real freedom: civil rights and human rights, democracy, secularism, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion… they cannot exist under capitalism, where a small class rules over the majority. True democracy means workers control society, not just picking which capitalist will exploit them.