• Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    Wordy+still failed=embarassing

    Your challenge was to name any way in which marijuana has changed regarding its status as an intoxicant at any point in human history, you can’t do that and you know it so you’re deflecting desperately to avoid admitting you’re wrong. Everyone everywhere knows what marijuana does, and what it does is fuck you up without any possibility of lethal overdose or permanent damage. Other drugs are not relevant at all, every single one of them can kill you, marijuana cannot, they are entirely separate categories. Have some fucking dignity and take the L.

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      So, to be clear, your only complaint is that I replied to the comment where you said “try again”, rather than directly to your original comment? OK, then go back and read them as if I was responding to your original comment. You said something, a person responded, and you correctly pointed out they were wrong. Told them to try again to refute your original statement. I refuted tour original statement, and if you thought I was responding directly to your rebuttal, rather than to “try again” to refute your original claim, consider that I am now informing you that my whole intent was, and always has been, to refute your original claim. I don’t give a fuck about the cultivation history of hemp, and it’s not where the problem lies in your original assertion. No further additions are necessary.

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        My complaint is that morons like you exist, and that the war on drugs was allowed to happen at all. Not entirely unrelated issues.

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            An ad hominem is when the argument is an insult, in this case my arguments are merely accompanied by insults, you fucking moron

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              “My complaint is that morons like you exist”

              If that is your complaint, then your complaint lacks any argument other than that you don’t like it, plus an ad hominem.

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                Complaint =/= argument, the argument is that marijuana is unchanged in all of human history in regard to being an intoxicant and completely unique in being impossible to OD on, complaint is that you’re so fucking dumb that I have to explain that shit to you and explain the difference between the two. Swing and a miss halfwit.

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                  No, you inarticulate potato. Did you never take a secondary science course? The supposedly unchanged nature of hemp is the evidence you used to support your central claim: that it is reasonable to expect every member of the human species of any age to know precisely how marijuana will affect them. This claim is belied by the inarguable fact that mind-altering drugs (e.g. hallucinogens, psychotropics, narcotics, anxiolytics and stimulants) all have wildly varying effects on different people due to the vastly different neurochemistry of individuals, and thus you cannot predict how it will affect you until you try it, no matter how long your cultural antecedents have been toking, as I stated in my original comment. Even cannabis, which you claim has no lasting side effects, can cause long-term psychosis and significantly worsen pre-existing mental health disorders. Not often, but that it is a documented effect with even a 0.5% incidence rate is sufficient for some basic modicum of caution. You cannot know whether you will be affected until you actually try it, and while long-term use and high dosage are risk factors for the above, they are not prerequisites. Pretending like cannabis is some fucking panacea is dangerously irresponsible, and accusing anyone who points out the illogic of your repeated exaggerations and leaps of reasoning of being with DARE is so pitifully childish. Ultimately, though, I’ve been responding to you ever since your kill count strawman not because I think I will convince you, who have demonstrated roughly the neuroplasticity of a chunk of granite, but because if someone makes the mistake of reading this far, then they will see the complete argument, and I leave it to them to decide for themselves.

                  So, to put those big, scary words in simpler terms for you:

                  You say all people know what weed do to them.

                  I say people different. I say some people happy drunk or sad drunk. I say some people kill selves when on prozac. Others don’t kill selves BECAUSE on prozac. Some people eat big weed gummy, enjoy. Other people eat little weed gummy, big sad, trap in body. Vomit brains out. Maybe go crazy for a couple months. No can predict.

                  You is wrong.

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                    That’s a whole lot of words to avoid saying “you’re completely right, marijuana has been an intoxicant forever and nobody has ever died from it”