There has been outrage after a small town in eastern Germany banned the installation of new Holocaust memorial plaques that mark the last known residence or workplace of Jews and other victims of the genocide.

Crossposted from https://thebrainbin.org/m/[email protected]/t/1945027

A small town in eastern Germany banned the installation of new Holocaust memorial plaques that mark the last known residence or workplace of Jews and other victims of the genocide.

The motion was proposed by the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD) and the centre-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU)…

  • modem_down@thebrainbin.orgOP
    1·
    4 days ago

    Cheers, but that doesn’t resolve the contradiction.

    “for whom is there democracy?” and “over whom is there a dictatorship?”

    Case 1: Sloan’s example

    Athenian citizens had democracy; non-citizens didn’t.

    Two separate groups: no contradiction. (Partial suffrage, as opp. universal suffrage.)

    Case 2: OurToothbrush

    “a proletarian democracy under dictatorship of the proletariat”.

    Same group (“proletarians”), so there is contradiction.

    • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
      14·
      4 days ago

      no, in the dictatorship of the proletariat the majority of people, this means the working class, imposes a dictatorship upon the bourgeoisie, the minority group that lives by stealing other people’s work.

        • ghost_laptop@lemmy.ml
          13·
          4 days ago

          didn’t you just read about it? it’s a democracy for us, its a dictatorship for you nazi trash. we’ll be ruling over the oppressors. of course you disagree with that because you’re a fascist.

                • Sherad@lemmygrad.mlEnglish
                  3·
                  3 days ago

                  Considering how you’re replying to people like this over those actually refuting your arguments/attempting to help you learn things you refuse to hear, I think you’re the one doing the majority of scraping in these threads.

            • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
              10·
              4 days ago

              Ridiculous. Go back to Reddit. Capitalist “democracies” are objectively not democratic, but you claim they are without evidence, and also without defining your term: democracy. Athens had slaves, like the US used to, and still does under the 14th amendment, yet you call them democracies. Clean your room.

    • davel@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      4 days ago

      There basically has never yet been a democracy for all residents of a state. The purpose of the state is to impose the will of the ruling class upon the other classes.

      Bourgeois democracy is a democracy for the bourgeoisie, to the exclusion of the proletariat.

      Proletarian democracy is a democracy for the proletariat, to the exclusion of the bourgeoisie.

      Until capitalism/imperialism has been nearly universally phased out, there will be competing economic classes. Once capitalism is gone, there will only be one economic class, the proletariat, allowing democracy to finally be for everyone. That’s what Marxists mean by a “stateless” society: one that is classless.

      Previously:

      The US government was never not captured by the bourgeoisie, because the US was born of a bourgeois revolution[1]. The wealthy, white, male, land-owning, largely slave-owning Founding Fathers constructed a bourgeois state with “checks and balances” against the “tyranny of the majority”. It was never meant to represent the majority—the working class—and it never has, despite eventually allowing women and non-whites (at least those not disenfranchised by the carceral system) to vote. BBC: [Princeton & Northwestern] Study: US is an oligarchy, not a democracy

      The game is rigged. The election cycle’s pomp and circumstance is to divert your energy and attention from the fact that it’s a big club, and you ain’t in it.

      As you have already chosen to remain ignorant by blocking me, this is for the peanut gallery.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
        11·
        4 days ago

        Ankh-Morpork had dallied with many forms of government and had ended up with that form of democracy known as One Man, One Vote. The Patrician was the Man; he had the Vote.

        Somehow always remind me when people mention Athenian democracy

    • ttayh@lemmy.zip
      9·
      4 days ago

      The athenian citizens had a democracy under the male-citizen dictatorship. You are just using a different definition of dictatorship than the one that is used for “dictatorship of the proletariat”