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    29 days ago

    American atheists’ favorite hobby is reconstructing christian cosmology from an unexamined base of fundamentally christian assumptions about the world. Look at roko’s basilisk.

    Understanding religion gives you a better context for the culture you emerge from, how it got to be where it is, and what underlining assumptions drive it ideologically. You can wish for a clean break from that historical context all you want, is isn’t gonna actually happen.

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        I’m not sure it’s possible to move past it, at least not in any of our lifetimes. Some long tail where specific faiths wither away bit by bit with each generation, maybe. Though, I find it hard to imagine that space not somehow being filled with some other form of spirituality.

        More to the point, surely you don’t mean all religions?

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      I love how you folks always assume that if anyone doesn’t agree with your religion then they just don’t understand it yet. It’s not hard to grasp, it’s really fucking simple, and it’s not hard to see that every religion is just the same stupid woowoo bullshit.

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            Seriously, have you seen the “rokos basilisk” thing? Buncha self-identified “rationalists” recreating god from first principles and a network connection.

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              Yeah, I’m very familiar with the Rationalists, and the Zizians, they don’t understand that science-fiction is fiction, just like how other cults don’t understand fantasy is fantasy, cults are going to cult. If anything, they are a further call to reject religious/cult reasoning and culture. It’s a mindset that seeks an intentional and deliberate misunderstanding of reality.

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                Really the only prerequisite to falling into a cult is thinking oneself too smart or moral or whatever to fall into a cult.

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                  No, the prerequisites to falling into a cult are vulnerability, misunderstanding, naïveté, peer pressure, desperation, seeking social acceptance, and opportunity. You can very much have enough awareness and independence of thought to not join nor be susceptible to cults and recognize cult behavior and ideology, not everybody is that desperate for something to give their life an illusion of greater meaning.