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      3 hours ago

      Much better. The US wouldn’t have had time to reward every single Nazi they could find with a job.

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        So you’re saying the USSR would have subsumed all of Europe? I could see that.

        Do you think the military capabilities of Europe are up to fighting off Russia without the US? I don’t see it.

        The Ukraine war is basically over at this point. Zelenskyy has zero negotiating power.

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          Russia won’t do anything.

          There’s a massive wall of article 5. Ukraine in NATO was a red line. We tested the waters, the Ukrainians paid for it. It’s easy to fuck around and find out when it’s not your children who get sent to the frontlines. All because Shell got scammed into investing in shale reserves that never existed. Lol, now we’re left holding the bag, the Ucranians have lost an entire generation of young men and the US is now the 4th reich. I’m more worried about jingoism from the yanks than Russia doing anything. They could barely penetrate a Ukraine with its pants down. (pun not intended)

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            Oh I didn’t mean to imply Russia is going to do anything - I mean Europe doesn’t have the capabilities to fight a proxy war in Ukraine. If the US is dropping out then the war is over, there was never anything else keeping the war going.