Why would color blind people struggle with this sign? There are no similar looking signs which mean something different.
The closest one would be this one:
And any color blind person is able to distinguish those two easily.
I see how it can be confusing for someone not used to it but for anyone who grew up in a country where this is the default it is perfectly understandable.
Accessibility needs to be universal. There may not be other signs like that in a particular city or country, but the rest of the world uses a line through “do not” signs.
Even a child could understand what it means, compared to different random coloured edge markings. And that’s exactly the point.
Those are pictograms, they aren’t “logical”, it’s a language, it can’t follow a logic. It’s like me saying that “road sign” is an illogical name, we all know it’s Verkehrsschild.
Vienna convention signs are usually avoiding conveying information via text. Other than stop sign, for historic reasons I guess. Text might be present, but it’s usually supplementary to the sign itself, and doesn’t do anything by its own.
Our “do not enter” looks like this
But in all seriousness, road signs need to be consistent and convey very quickly what the message is to a road user. If someone has to decipher that a red ring means “do not”, except for speed limits, then consistency is lost.
The problem I have with signs here in North America, is that they are largely just ignored 😫
Nobody has to decipher anything. Everyone is taught from childhood about the most important signs, everyone grasps basic rules and exceptions, and when you learn how to drive, you learn and memorize more obscure sings, and then you just know them, no deciphering needed. It’s the same both in America and in the rest of the world.
You seem to think that American signs are intuitive and not require learning, but that’s not true, it’s just you’re familiar with them, you know the rules and so it’s easy for you.
Why would color blind people struggle with this sign? There are no similar looking signs which mean something different.
The closest one would be this one:
And any color blind person is able to distinguish those two easily.
I see how it can be confusing for someone not used to it but for anyone who grew up in a country where this is the default it is perfectly understandable.
Accessibility needs to be universal. There may not be other signs like that in a particular city or country, but the rest of the world uses a line through “do not” signs.
Even a child could understand what it means, compared to different random coloured edge markings. And that’s exactly the point.
your defaultism is showing. In fact most of the world uses a white sign with red border to mean a prohibition.
and in fact children need to be taught what traffic signs mean all over the world, they don’t magically know it
That’s crazy.
Like, this sign means maximum speed limit, not “don’t go 20”…
To me, it’s illogical.
Like, how on earth would the right be better than the left in explaining that bikes are not allowed?
The use of a red border needs to be consistent, if it were to mean prohibition. Yet, it’s not 🧐
Those are pictograms, they aren’t “logical”, it’s a language, it can’t follow a logic. It’s like me saying that “road sign” is an illogical name, we all know it’s Verkehrsschild.
The thick line on the left covers up part of the bike, making the sign overall harder to read.
Also, the red border on the 20 does make sense, as it’s a speed prohibition on going over 20.
Are your “do not enter” signs just the word ENTER, but with a red circle border? 😂 I’m kidding.
Are yours just the word
enter?Vienna convention signs are usually avoiding conveying information via text. Other than stop sign, for historic reasons I guess. Text might be present, but it’s usually supplementary to the sign itself, and doesn’t do anything by its own.
Our “do not enter” looks like this
See a line through the sign! /s
But in all seriousness, road signs need to be consistent and convey very quickly what the message is to a road user. If someone has to decipher that a red ring means “do not”, except for speed limits, then consistency is lost.
The problem I have with signs here in North America, is that they are largely just ignored 😫
Nobody has to decipher anything. Everyone is taught from childhood about the most important signs, everyone grasps basic rules and exceptions, and when you learn how to drive, you learn and memorize more obscure sings, and then you just know them, no deciphering needed. It’s the same both in America and in the rest of the world.
You seem to think that American signs are intuitive and not require learning, but that’s not true, it’s just you’re familiar with them, you know the rules and so it’s easy for you.
Well, I’m in the USA. I’m just here to defend UK road signage