The US has not banned communist parties from existing. There’s even a few local elected communist mayors. The Red Scare for sure did it’s job though, and declaring as a communist in virtually any US office is a surefire way to lose.
It’s like burning down a house and asking what’s the problem after the fire has gone out. Repercussions last a long time. The cultural changes produced go on for generations.
Anyways, none of that matters cause this is America. We just did the unconstitutional thing at the State level instead.
Yes the cultural repercussions of the Red Scare are pervasive to this day. I mentioned that in my original reply.
The Texas State code you linked has a pretty funny definitions of “Communist”:
Sec. 557.021. DEFINITIONS. In this subchapter:
(1) “Communist” means a person who commits an act reasonably calculated to further the overthrow of the government:
(A) by force or violence; or
(B) by unlawful or unconstitutional means and replace it with a communist government.
It’s not altogether uncommon in southern states to redefine words to make the name of the act sound extremely right wing. If this was written a decade later I guarantee it would say “Terrorist” instead. This particular act is also silly because it just redefines treason laws that already existed to make it seem like they were stopping communists. States did similar in this past election with “banning illegal immigrants from voting” on ballots. It’s a political scare tactic and it clearly is working on you. Again, this law doesn’t actually ban colloquial definition of “Communist” just some weird legal rewrite of what would most people would call a terrorist.
It also is kind of shitty to have someone come at you with “Brutal” and linking to an article that debunks their claim. Then continues to move the goalpost and condescendingly tells you that they’re going to “knock down” anything you rebut with while also calling them “complaints” instead of facts. As such, I think I’m done with this conversation. Have a nice day!
Before I too let the conversation die I just want to point out how much you devalue “political scare tactics” like they have no effect and can be basically ignored by its targets with no repercussions. I want you to think on that for a while. Figure out yourself why that is a self evidently silly thing to say when discussing how they redefined communist to mean traitor and how that means they actually didn’t ban communism.
I bet your a real big fan of the children’s game “I’m not touching you”
If you insist on continuing to engage me then let’s pivot to a different conversation.
Why are you so hostile towards me and why do you insist on ascribing things to me that I didn’t say, or even imply? In fact, I’ve said the opposite of what you have claimed I said in your comment… The main reason I had for pointing out that communism is not banned is that it actively dissuades people from joining a communist party if people believe it’s illegal. Which is the intent of the scare tactic. Which I believe is a bad outcome. Do you follow the logic here? Now can we please put that aside as I actually think we’re effectively on the same page or at least on the same chapter.
I’ve tried to be moderately polite to you but you seem adamant to be a complete ghoul back to me. I just can’t figure out why a simple rebuttal sent you flying off into a weird attack mode where you seem to ignore facts put back to you. What I can’t stress enough though, is that mindset is not unique to you. It’s extremely off putting to me personally, and I’d very much like to figure out where the heck this mindset is coming from.
I will say that I don’t care for more insults. I really don’t have the mental energy to deal with some random person attacking me for no real reason. So if you do reply please keep it cordial or I think I will completely disengage from further discussions with you.
The US has not banned communist parties from existing. There’s even a few local elected communist mayors. The Red Scare for sure did it’s job though, and declaring as a communist in virtually any US office is a surefire way to lose.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Control_Act_of_1954
Brutal.
Which was ruled unconstitutional in 1973 by the federal district court of Arizona. Did you finish the article that you linked?
Blawis v. Bolin
It’s like burning down a house and asking what’s the problem after the fire has gone out. Repercussions last a long time. The cultural changes produced go on for generations.
Anyways, none of that matters cause this is America. We just did the unconstitutional thing at the State level instead.
https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/GV/htm/GV.557.htm
Please read and hit me with some more complaints. Maybe if I keep knocking them down you will eventually change your mind :)
Yes the cultural repercussions of the Red Scare are pervasive to this day. I mentioned that in my original reply.
The Texas State code you linked has a pretty funny definitions of “Communist”:
It’s not altogether uncommon in southern states to redefine words to make the name of the act sound extremely right wing. If this was written a decade later I guarantee it would say “Terrorist” instead. This particular act is also silly because it just redefines treason laws that already existed to make it seem like they were stopping communists. States did similar in this past election with “banning illegal immigrants from voting” on ballots. It’s a political scare tactic and it clearly is working on you. Again, this law doesn’t actually ban colloquial definition of “Communist” just some weird legal rewrite of what would most people would call a terrorist.
It also is kind of shitty to have someone come at you with “Brutal” and linking to an article that debunks their claim. Then continues to move the goalpost and condescendingly tells you that they’re going to “knock down” anything you rebut with while also calling them “complaints” instead of facts. As such, I think I’m done with this conversation. Have a nice day!
Before I too let the conversation die I just want to point out how much you devalue “political scare tactics” like they have no effect and can be basically ignored by its targets with no repercussions. I want you to think on that for a while. Figure out yourself why that is a self evidently silly thing to say when discussing how they redefined communist to mean traitor and how that means they actually didn’t ban communism.
I bet your a real big fan of the children’s game “I’m not touching you”
If you insist on continuing to engage me then let’s pivot to a different conversation.
Why are you so hostile towards me and why do you insist on ascribing things to me that I didn’t say, or even imply? In fact, I’ve said the opposite of what you have claimed I said in your comment… The main reason I had for pointing out that communism is not banned is that it actively dissuades people from joining a communist party if people believe it’s illegal. Which is the intent of the scare tactic. Which I believe is a bad outcome. Do you follow the logic here? Now can we please put that aside as I actually think we’re effectively on the same page or at least on the same chapter.
I’ve tried to be moderately polite to you but you seem adamant to be a complete ghoul back to me. I just can’t figure out why a simple rebuttal sent you flying off into a weird attack mode where you seem to ignore facts put back to you. What I can’t stress enough though, is that mindset is not unique to you. It’s extremely off putting to me personally, and I’d very much like to figure out where the heck this mindset is coming from.
I will say that I don’t care for more insults. I really don’t have the mental energy to deal with some random person attacking me for no real reason. So if you do reply please keep it cordial or I think I will completely disengage from further discussions with you.
I don’t insist on continuing. I’m sticking to my word and leaving it there.