Congratulations, we’ve witnessed history as global American influence effectively ended. Mark this day.
Oh sure, there’ll be some leaders who’ll profess listening but no one is going to take America seriously from now on.
The wise sage is now a decrepit dotard.
This was absolutely insane. This is what happens when the empire no longer needs you.
If anyone had doubts about the US switching to Russia’s side, this is it.
The US is already suspending help to Ukraine.
Trump is such a disgusting thing
Few takeaways:
- JD Vance is talking over a tired-looking trump who can’t follow the conversation (See, him trying to correct Zelenskyy on the date of Crimea’s annexation, claiming it was 2015, then responding to being corrected on the date that, “I wasn’t there”. Like he was there in 2015, LOL).
- This was a preplanned ambush that is the most cringe fucking thing I’ve seen in the last 5 years, from MTG’s fucking boyfriend (I wish I made this up, I really do), attacking Zelenskyy for not wearing a suite, to which he responds by saying “I’ll wear a costume after the war is over. Like yours, but maybe better”
- JD Vance is really really bad at acting. He theatrically exclaims how the Oval office is being dIsReSPecTed!!!111!!! but with like a 5 second delay and with limited enthusiasm. All it does it tells you that this was the plan all along.
- Marco Rubio had a Dr Birx/drink bleach kind of moment there.
Overall the only news here is trump is really really declining cognitively. I wonder how long it will take NYT to notice that…
“I’ll wear a costume after the war is over.”
What a savage takedown, holy shit.
Zelenskyy is a class act. America doesn’t deserve to even be sitting at the same table as this guy.
Fun fact: the French word for “suit” is “costume.” I wonder if Zelenskyy was aware of his multilingual pun.
Suit in Ukrainian is listerally “костюм”, in Latin script “kostyum”. Which is pronounced close enough.
I am not sure if it was intended, but hilarious nevertheless.
I’m sure it’s intended. The man was a comedian, and he’s been criticised for not wearing a suit before. He’s had this line in the chamber for a while, now he’s showing the world how a professional deals with hecklers.
I don’t think it was an intentional pun.
We can assume he is aware of it a lot more than the rubes in that room with him.
It’s the same in Ukrainian (and Russian): костюм
Honestly, the question’s stupidity wrote the pun.
All they achieved with this ambush is to show the difference in quality between Zelenskyy and trump/vance. The contrast is stark. Those two guys would have shat themselves in a reverse situation.
Just to clarify, in Russian and Ukrainian “costume” means “suit”.
I wonder how long it will take NYT to notice that…
Once it’s in their oligarch-owner’s interest
This has to be a put on. All of the deal making gets done beforehand. Two leaders sitting down and making a deal on video is symbolic, all of the groundwork is long done before it gets to this point. Trump and company are putting on a show for the camera
The US should feel embarassed for this.
There’s a whole hell of a lot of them taking the Trump viewpoint.
Those of us who didn’t vote for him, actual Americans, do.
No true scotsman.
Yup. MAGAs are just as American as any other American. If they really want to deal with this, just whinging like elected Democrats isn’t gonna help. They’ve got to actually organize in meatspace.
If they were American, they would be following American values and laws.
also, if we ever got so lucky to get rid of this this mess, it won’t the MAGAs who will do the cleanup.
Krasnov gonna krasnov.
Diplomacy by reality TV—Trump’s Oval Office antics are reckless on the world stage.
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I’m actually hoping for a coup by the military industrial complex
2022 saw Europe cheering for Germany ramping up military spending.
2025 has people cheering for the military industrial complex to save democracy
2028 will be just cheering for China to finish buying the last silicon Valley remnants or something
Someone needs to end the reign of Trump. What a waste of energy, piece of shit. Burn in hell.
Someone close to him needs to do something, for the good of the entire world.
That’s just vague enough to keep the SS off your back. Good job. Pun intended on SS
Yea, gotta be careful not to Say anything illegal
Plenty of old people with nothing left to lose have access to him. I’m just saying, it’d be a real shame…
Damn. That video is hard to watch. It’s clear Zelensky is at a grave disadvantage because American English is not his first language.
It would be way easier for him to reason with these people and get his message out if he could just talk like a normal American.
He’s not able to explain what’s actually a very simple and clear concept: the US gave Ukraine security guarantees that it did not fulfill. Then he gets steamrolled by people who can speak English better than him and all he can do is sit back and watch.
Incorrect. Zelensky could speak perfect English and it would change nothing. There is no reasoning with these people.
It’s certainly more unfair to him as it is, but the game was rigged from the start.
This is not true. Zelenskyy made himself very clear: It is absolutely justified to question the value of (2014 to 2022, covering 3 presidents) if it leads to more violence and annexation.
Trump’s first language is english yet he’s the one who could not articulate a single thing to guarantee lasting peace adhered to by putin. Instead he talked about the investigation of his russian ties as something that traumatized both him and putin. The guy is so demented at this point, he’s really letting the truth slip out.
That was one of the most disgusting and rage-inducing videos I’ve ever seen. I would not have been able to restrain myself from punching Trump in the fucking nose if he had talked to me like that. I’m not a tough guy or violent in any way, and the Secret Service would have killed me, but the way he yells such insulting things at a world leader who is trying to save millions of lives… holy crap. And then Vance jumps in and claims he never said Thank You. I would’ve kicked him in the nuts and said, “thank you, now I feel better.”
This was a setup from the get go. They had no intention of signing any deal. This was all to get him in front of cameras with them so they could piss on his face and act like tough guys.
Trump won’t be mean to Putin because he wants to “make a deal” but he seems to be fine insulting the fuck out of Zelensky.
“Everything feels increasingly like a scam”
As a real American I am embarrassed and very sorry to Zelenskyy and all the people of Ukraine.
