• reksas@sopuli.xyz
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    7 days ago

    if you plan to whistleblow something, always plan it thoroughly so you cant be silenced by being murdered.

    • unconfirmedsourcesDOTgov@lemmy.sdf.org
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      7 days ago

      It’s a great idea, though in practice I fear you’d seem like Snowden and everyone would eventually coalesce around the idea that you’re a traitor because you didn’t get assassinated or put into a dark hole to be forgotten.

      • Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        7 days ago

        Isn’t Snowden, like, actually a dipshit though? He released info that got our spies killed.

        Some was important to know. Some just got people murdered

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          What info got spies killed exactly? Aspersions were cast but no actual information ever came out about that, and presumably if they’re already dead then it can be released.

          If that had actually happened, the government would have been howling from the rooftops about it, we’d all know their names.

          But the reports on what damage it did were entirely redacted, and the worst thing they could say was “likely to have lethal consequences”, which presumably means it hadn’t had lethal consequences. Pretty weak shit, and even then we’re just supposed to trust them when they relay the contents of blacked out pages to us?

          Also they’re bitching and moaning about how it will weaken their ability to do spy shit and like… good. Why do we want them to do that shit? Everything we know about what they do is basically universally evil, so maybe Snowden is a hero actually.

          Nah, it’s bullshit, they’re just trying to assassinate his character and it sounds like you fell for it.

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      7 days ago

      And make it abundantly clear to everyone that you’re not suicidal. Record videos with date stamps. Send date stamped letters by mail to friends, with instructions to retain the letters indefinitely, and perhaps which are clearly marked “to be opened in the event of my death”. The letters should say something along the lines of “I am not suicidal. I do not want to die. I am not going to kill myself under any circumstances. If I die, it was not by suicide. I want to live. I have ABC reasons to live. I have XYZ plans for the future.” Etc.

      Keep multiple copies of the information in multiple locations, and make sure multiple people know where a copy is. Ideally, have a dead-man’s switch set up, or someone you trust to do it, to automatically send all the information to all the major news outlets if you do turn up dead, along with a statement akin to the letter outlined above to make it clear you were murdered.

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        I’m not sure it’s in those exact terms, but I think there were a few cases with high levels of preparation. Ended up being ruled as suicides anyway by the courts and the media. Not saying they’ll always win, though. But their idealogical power is not to underestimate.

        A minister in my country was deemed to have committed suicide by drowning in a 50cm body of water. Strangely enough, all witnesses have committed suicide too just before being heard by the courts.

        And it worked. Everybody know it wasn’t a suicide, but it changes nothing for those responsible of the murder.

    • ColeSloth@discuss.tchncs.de
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      7 days ago

      The point is like Russian point. It isn’t just to silence you so trouble goes away that the whistle-blower was involved with. It’s to silence other potential whistle-blowers. It’s too send a message.

      • Bacano@lemmy.world
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        Yeah I read somewhere that, in Russian culture, the more absurd the cover up story the more insulting it is meant to be for the victim.

        Like if someone “shot themselves 3 times in the back of the head then fell out of a window”. Maybe Epstein fits into that too