One of the needs was not driving a huge ass truck for the 99% of trips where a smaller, more efficient car works so much better.

Eh. In the same line. Close enough.

That’s what the “Standard deductible” is on your taxes. Basically “this is what we think it costs to live here for a year, so this money doesn’t count towards your taxes.”

What we really need to do is hold corrupt politicians and the businesses that are paying them accountable for 150% of the damages from their schemes. None of this “I took a 5 million dollar bribe and I got 6 months house arrest plus a 1500 dollar fine.”

Translation :

I can’t see, you can’t see, all that matter is, can the fuckin horse see!

In that case, it’s better to just run a conventional hybrid if you frequently need to take long trips.

I never make special trips for petrol, nor do I ever have to wait to get on a pump.

Calling bullshit on this. I drove a gas powered car for 16 years. Unless you started driving earlier this year, you’ve definitely done both of those things at this point.

You can get a shorter range EV if that fits your needs. Gas engine just adds weight and complexity.

Use a conventional hybrid for that, and you won’t need to lug around a lot of extra battery.

Wow… Sounds like one brand of cars known for having QC problems has QC problems.

Just get an EV then. Why lug around a gas motor that you don’t need?

Sure, a couple of minutes every week or so. Do you know how long it takes you to plug in and unplug an EV in every night? Literally less than 4 seconds. No special trips, no waiting for a pump, no authorizing with your card, no waiting for the actual fuel to go in the tank.

As for my longer trip, it only wastes 30 minutes if you do nothing with that time. I get lunch, or take a piss, or stretch my legs for a bit, or check out a local shop. When I do EV trips with non-EV drivers, they’re always amazed at how much of a non-hassle most charging experiences are.

My partner and I prefer to use the EV for some of our longer trips (2+ hours) because of it’s comfort features, “fuel” economy, quietness, and how it doesn’t stink like a gas car does. Charging stops are a non-issue, a surprising amount of places have destination chargers at them or nearby. Just plug the car in, enter payment, and go do whatever you were going to do that day, and have a “full tank” when you get back. The only people I hear complain about how awful it is to make a charging stop, are people who have never had do one.

My electricity is $0.09/kwh, or about $0.15/kwh when you factor in the bullshit fees AEP slaps on…

I also just looked up the average residential cost of electricity…

Just did the math on my whole bill. My actual price per kWh is $0.19, so more than 18, waaaaay less than 24, I also pay extra for 100% green power generation and I live in an area that is known for its electric utility corruption.

My hurdle to adopting electric is their so goddamned expensive that they can’t outweigh oil, gas, and service costs yet.

Yeah, that is the real issue with EVs, and probably the only complaint I’ve seen in all these comments that is valid.

It shocks people when I tell them this, but I did NOT buy an EV to save money. In most situations, buying a new (to you) car will cost you more than fixing the old car many times over. So I’m not shocked that I’m paying more for the EV. I’m more shocked that with the insane cost of gas lately, my EV is getting close to breaking even on monthly driving cost compared to my partner’s civic.

I think it’s funny that the complaint people bring up in these kinds of threads; that EVs aren’t that “green”, that they are unreliable, that charging is inconvenient, or that they aren’t practical… is completely wrong, and people who have EVs love them because they are exactly the opposite of that.

Average residential electric cost is $0.18/kwh, and the average new car fuel economy is 29mpg combined then yes, if you inflate the cost of electricity by 25% and reduce the fuel cost of the car by 17% then the ICE car is nearly as cost effective as an EV.

Not OP, but conventional hybrids are alright. Plug-In hybrids are kind of a waste, and really only see benefits in very niche situations.

My partner loves their Civic. They will wait all day for me to get back from work so they can take the fake Mustang though. I still can’t convince them to sell the Civic, but we’re putting maybe 1000 miles on it a year now, probably a lot less, versus about 21,000 on the Mach-E

Your EV charges at home while you are sleeping. I spend less time “refueling” my EV than I spent putting gas in my hybrid, even including the occasional fast charging stops.

You can already drive cross country in almost any EV. There are more charging stations in my area than there are gas station.

Mechanically, EVs are very simple. Cost and “complexity” (app, touchscreens, etc) are rampant in ICE cars today as well, so buying one of those won’t really make a difference there either.