So if Elon literally lay down on the ground we couldn’t say he lay on the ground? You’re saying we would have to say allegedly? What he did is not in question, their argument was intent. It should be obvious that he lay on the ground but reported as possibly unintentionally lay on the ground. The action is clear as day and should not be up for dispute

So at what point of doing something does it actually become the thing that it was?

Seems pretty obvious to me.

Won’t these numbers be manipulated and likely outright lies anyway?

Isn’t musk too busy taking credit for being the ceo of Tesla? And space x and the boring company, solar city, oh yeh and twitter. Oh and wasn’t he supposed to be going through every social security payment? How will he find the time to jerk off on twitter while fixing Air Force one and all the faa safety standards. He must really be a genius (hardest fucking sigh in the universe)