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Today I Learned@lemmy.world•TIL that full automation of subway systems is illegal in the United StatesEnglish
17·5 days agoI don’t necessarily disagree with automation. I think the article is being disingenuous with their reasons for it.
To start off, the posts headline is inaccurate. It’s not against any law to have automated transport systems. The US has had automated train systems for 50+ years. They were designed that way from the start though. The article is complaining about systems that were not designed with automation in mind. They are not being retrofitted because of this particular regulation that was designed to protect existing workers.
From the posted article:
Yet no legacy US heavy rail system has been retrofitted for full automation. Many legacy US systems already use automatic train control (ATC) technology that can operate trains without a driver — San Francisco’s BART trains have run under automatic control since the system opened in 1972, and WMATA’s trains in the DC-Maryland-Virginia region are similarly automated. But no legacy system has removed onboard operators and transitioned to unattended operation.
Since they mention BART, their own website says removing train operators does basically nothing to solve their financial issues. It just moves costs around and ignores the insane cost to retrofit it in the first place that would likely take decades to recoup.
Train Operator salaries and benefits (including overtime) makes up 7.8% of the FY27 Preliminary Operating Budget $1.05B. That is $81-$83M ($71.5M in wages and benefits and the overtime budget is about $11M). The structural deficit is up to $400M per year. If regulations allowed BART to remove Train Operators, there would be costs associated with no longer having train operators on board such as increased operation control center staffing and more at the ready staff presence for incident response etc. – and that’s not even considering the significant upfront capital costs.
From budget data I could find, the BART police department was a larger slice of the budget than the train operators.
JordanZ@lemmy.worldto
Today I Learned@lemmy.world•TIL that full automation of subway systems is illegal in the United StatesEnglish
4·5 days agoThey’re working on changing that whole public thing…
Public private partnerships (P3s) are contractual agreements between a public agency and a private entity that allow for greater private participation in the delivery of projects. In transportation projects, this participation typically involves the private sector taking on additional project risks such as design, construction, finance, long-term operation, and traffic revenue.
The transit authority in my state is already in one of these agreements.
No private sector entity will agree to something like that with a union in place. Corporate America despises unions.
JordanZ@lemmy.worldto
Today I Learned@lemmy.world•TIL that full automation of subway systems is illegal in the United StatesEnglish
54·5 days agoThis just sounds like union busting under the guise of automation.
Transit automation can drastically reduce operating costs and improve service, but the open-ended 13© certification process provides labor with an effective veto on such changes.
Section 13© specifies several categories of required protection: preservation of rights, privileges, and benefits under existing collective bargaining agreements;
I wouldn’t buy their kitchen stuff(especially refrigerators) but I have a washer/dryer from them that are 17 years old now. Absolutely zero issues with them. Like anything, do your research on what you buy. Mine aren’t anything special, mid-range units at best.
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Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world•ngl kinda hoping people start arguing over this
20·10 days agoThe ‘I can’t be bothered’…

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Just trying to schedule a run of the mill physical exam. That thing you’re supposed to do every year. Those wait times are like 2-3 months out. I have great insurance it’s just the doctor offices are being run like businesses in the US now so they’re perpetually short staffed and over booked. Allowing investment firms to own hospitals and the such was such a mistake. These things should not be seen as investment opportunities.
Edit: There’s actually a tracker for hospitals owned by private equity firms.