This is a fucking nightmare. Twitter has effectively become a sexual exploitation generator.

I have argued extensively with people on lemmy about why having AI porn generated of you without your consent is deeply traumatizing and a violation of your rights and privacy. Actual entire threads of people telling me that AI deep fake porn was perfectly fine and that we’re being too sensitive to not want our male peers and random strangers making AI deep fake porn of us. Wonder where those people are now.

Its just that in doing so you are legitimizing what they say to begin with. By pointing out the contradictions over and over you aren’t actually swaying them or any of their followers. Because they’re bigots. They’re white supremacists. It was never about anything else. They want to deport minorities. They want a white ethnostate.

I just wish we would stop letting fascist dictate the language thats used. We should stop playing into the performance of what they’re doing. Don’t afford it ant legitimacy. There’s no contradiction in their behavior, because nothing they say is real. What is real is their hatred for minorities. What is real is their fascist takeover of the country. And the mass targeting of racialized minorities.

I dont know why they even mention the bit about criminal history. It would be no less heinous if she did have a criminal record.

The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.

I agree for the most part. It depends a lot on what distro youre using, what DE, so on. But you can easily get by on gnome without having to use the terminal much if at all.

You dont have to. But honestly its worth the time to get over the fear of the terminal. Understanding how they work and being comfortable using them has many advantages. So many things do not require a bloated GUI application. Like again its not necessary but its a bandaid that I think is worth it to rip off.

What are your favorite keys on the keyboard?

Genuine question. How does all of this useless nonsense make them money? Is it all just from loans? Are they just saying “look at all the AI we’re doing” and the investors are just desperate to give them more money?

I just cannot fathom how they profit from all of this. They’re spending so much time doing this. For what? What is the business motive for doing this, if not to get bigger loans from their investors?

I’m guessing this will lead to more things being locked behind their subscription model. Ransoming core features for cash is the standard template of this process.

Kinda. But like, a compression algorithm that isnt all that good at exact decompression. It’s really good at outputting text that makes you think “wow that sounds pretty similar to what a person might write”. So even if it’s entirely wrong about something thats fine, as long as youd look at it and be satisfied its answer sounded right.

You could also have written a script to query the entries for you. Instead of asking chatgpt to do it very resource intensively for you, spend a minor amount of time writing the script and once its done you can just run it each time your boss sends you more serial numbers.

This is the thing with LLMs. Its not really solving anything. It’s wasteful to the point of absurdity to complete tasks that are already very easily completable in far simpler and less costly ways. Its like using a block chain to perform arithmetic. You could, you could do that, but why? Why would you waste all those resources to achieve the same thing you already can?

And thats all fine and well until you get a case where it trips up and gets something really important wrong. Then its a liability. And unlike if an individual makes a mistake, an LLM cant just be told to be more careful. Its not a person, it is static at the time it is built. It cannot learn, only rebuild which is also extremely resource intensive and costly. It cannot know anything either, it just generates outputs based on the static parameters defined and tuned when it was built.

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Goblins are canonically considered by wizards to be subservient to them, along with most of the other magical races. They’re not like house elves, who love being slaves, they’re like a rung above them on the hierarchy of fantasy races in Joanne’s fictional universe.

They are universally regarded with mistrust because of a founding myth that states they unjustly stole a historic Wizarding artifact, one of the only weapons that can kill basilisks, from the most courageous wizard about to fight the most evil wizard who commanded a basilisk.

The lore of the seventh book also pretty much paints them out to be communists who believe that the crafter of an item rightfully belongs to them and not the person paying them.

They’re money obsessed, untrustworthy, regarded with suspicion over their loyalties, painted functionally as communists, and have a foundation myth about betraying maybe the most famous and revered wizard in history. Make of that what you will.

The majority of influencers are not in the same geographical regions as their fans. Content is not as regional as it once was. The TikTok algorithm is based on time spent viewing something, and things like search terms and engagement, more than it is about where you are geographically.

The same can be said for Instagram. How you connect with other users on instagram is by following them. It will recommend you new users based on who the people you follow also follow. Where you are does not have really anything to do with how you would engage with your fellow peers. They’ll mostly be asking you directly what your handle is and then following you. Your geography would mostly impact what kinds of new content the algorithm will feed you without any prior data, drawing instead from content that is popular with where you are from and what age you said you are and what gender you said you are.

I think a lot of people in this thread are misunderstanding how people use social media in general. Activating a VPN and creating an account somewhere else will not fundamentally alter how you use the platform. It just adds a very simple very easily accessible bypass measure to using it.

I personally expect that the platforms will make whatever concessions the government is asking for so they dont have to do this. Because teenagers make up such a large part of their userbase that it would be a massive hit financially to lose out on it. But the ban itself would be ineffective in ultimately preventing teenagers from accessing those platforms.

This added context is extremely helpful.

Porn is comparable because of its implementation and circumvention strategy, not because of its substance.

Drinking rates are decreasing, yes, but i disagree that it has anything to do with carding. It has been illegal for minors to drink since… at least the 60s? Earlier? Lol

Free VPNs are abundant and teenagers using instagram are almost certainly entirely unconcerned with their data being stolen. A market gap will come to exist for better free VPNs, advertising revenue being the driving factor.

I dont think that the majority of teenagers on Instagram / Facebook / TikTok are using discord or even aware of what it is. Some of them are definitely but I dont see those platforms as being interchangeable or serving the same functions whatsoever.

You could present literally the same arguments for why teenagers would never drink alcohol. Its against the law for them to purchase right, so its an inconvenience to access, so clearly they would all abandon it as all their friends become unable to access it as well. You could make the same argument for most kinds of bans. There are actually very few things for which imposing barriers to access has ever eliminated its use. Porn is an obvious example as well. Porn bans are essentially meaningless to consumers. They are so trivial to bypass as to be functionally non-existent. The only thing that imposed bans have done is make it difficult for companies to profit off of it. I am essentially ambivalent about that, but it’s a literal direct parallel in this case.

What is likely is that tools for circumventing in simpler faster ways will develop. Installing a VPN is already a single click operation. You dont have to do anything else. Teenagers are not going to abandon social media. Maybe you havent encountered many in the past 2 decades, but social media use is and has been near universal among them since social media came to exist. Like you’re nuts if you think they’re actually going to stop using it haha I dont know what else to say. But yeah maybe youre right. Making stuff against the law totally eliminates it because everyone is so lazy and incompetent they won’t expend any effort to overcome trivial barriers to access things they have built their entire lives around lol

It would absolutely be more effective to use legislation to address the root causes of excessive alcohol consumption than to make blanket bans. I’m not saying that the bans won’t do anything, but they are absolutely not effective on a broad scale. There are so many circumventions that are trivially easy to access that it renders the ban more of a general barrier for entry than an actual prevention of access. Its moreso “how hard are you willing to work to get it” than “you cannot access this”. So harmful alcohol consumption becomes a matter of effort. Addiction is frequently characterized by massive efforts to access substances. Its one of the hallmarks. I’m not arguing for teenage alcohol consumption, just pointing out that it’s only ever been a trivial block and we are very socially aware that it is circumventable and frequently is circumvented by minors.

And alcohol is a physical object that must be acquired. Social media access is not.

You can circumvent this ban from any device at any time. It’s like porn bans. It’s now just a matter of effort. Install VPN, click click done. Youre now able to browse freely as a minor. And again, now youre lying about your age. So all age protections are gone, and you are free to engage with the same content as before but with less actual protections in place. Youve taken an undesirable situation and rendered it into a subversive one, one that requires circumvention by design, and will therefore make the relationship between the user and the platform a dishonest one. This has a lot of consequences. It makes it a lot harder to actually check the age of people using their platforms, cause everyone underage will lie. You won’t be able to prevent them from engaging with grown adults in profoundly harmful ways, for example.

Alcohol and tobacco are (mostly) harmful in all circumstances, yes. Social media is not harmful in all circumstances. Human socialization can be a good thing, but it is impossible for those substances to be good things (except possibly in extremely niche circumstances). If social media platforms were designed to be good for people, then they wouldnt cause the same harm. If they had legal requirements to be moderated, to not spread misinformation, to not promote unhealthy and damaging habits, to stop the spread of hatred and bullying, then they would be significantly less harmful for teenagers and also everyone of all ages. These things would actually make social media better for teenagers. Completely useless age verification actually makes social media WORSE for teenagers. Teenagers are never not going to use social media. Sorry thats just the truth. Entire fields of technology and software design have been developed by teenagers seeking to circumvent age bans throughout history. These bans dont even require any kind of new innovation. They just need to setup a basic VPN. Trivial.

1. Will not work. None of these kinds of bans has ever worked. Is it not a common trope that teenagers can and do drink to excess despite not being legally allowed to purchase alcohol? Are we under some misguided belief that age verification procedures in this manner can or ever have worked effectively to reduce harm on minors?

2. Will have large unintended consequences far beyond social media access for teenagers.

3. Will actually make the internet less safe for teenagers, as they will now be lying about their age and circumventing the systems in place, which renders all existing protections for them ineffective.

4. Is pointlessly age targeted legislation as social media is also bad for adults as well. Its bad because of business practices and lack of ethical considerations in gigantic monolithic international social media corporations. If your end goal is making the internet safer for teenagers, your end result will actually end up being making the internet safer for everyone.