I’m guessing they’re just not aware of construction impacts on trees. It’s not something most people think about.

No, it’s real. For some Nazis the Jews are the ultimate enemy and they have cynically attempted to graft themselves to the Palestinian liberation movement as a recruitment tool. They obviously don’t give a shit about Palestinians but if they can weaponize Israeli war crimes to foster anti-semitism they can recruit more people into their movement.

It’s similar to how some far-right extremists participated in the George Floyd protests—both because they’re anti-cop and they wanted to start a race war.

Yeah I immediately realized after posting this that I had even seen this video before. But it was lost deep in the memory banks.

I had no idea doge was connected to HSR though. How do Nazis always end up ruining wholesome internet art?

Wait doge came from Homestar? How did I not know this?

Some, but not all are. It might add some extra expense but couldn’t they move the readers off of federal highways and onto the exits where they meet state and local roads? Might be worth it to preserve the program if the courts side with the president.

I think this is an underrated way to get started. Remove aggressive weeds, consider seeding in a few native species that can coexist with the existing lawn and see what happens.

It’s even better to plant trees and shrubs to create more 3D habitat but just increasing the diversity of the lawn can have a positive impact.

All politicians should be recallable at any time.

So you were a right-wing accelerationist anarchist all along?! I knew it!

In all seriousness I am still a little unclear on what exactly a mutualist is.

You could also describe it as monarchist I suppose, though as I mentioned that doesn’t quite fit the more racialized elements of the film. But fascism is a much more popular ideology today, and as you mention the overlap between the two is substantial.

I am talking about the original. I haven’t seen the remake.

Goose-stepping is not only associated with the Nazis and fascism is a broader movement beyond just them—it’s also highly associated with the USSR, which would have been a recent memory for writers of the time. But I’m talking about the deeper ideas of the film, not just the imagery. The idea of rule by birthright, that there is a class of people meant to sit at the top of society, and that allowing subjugated people to run rampant will cause ruin are all ideas strongly connected to fascism. The hyenas are also coded as “ghetto” or low class with their accents. You could also use a different word if you prefer, since many of these themes predate fascism, but it’s an idea that most people here understand.

I don’t personally think the writers were intentionally aiming to support fascism but rather that they unintentionally included fascist themes and ideas from other similar stories in our society. Many of these ideas have deep roots that tie back to authoritarian elements of society under feudalism or church authority, and they can be found in many of the fairy tales and other stories Disney drew inspiration from.

I’m not sure I agree but this is a well-argued and reasonable position.

I am not saying we should vilify people for being imperfect but I do think it’s important to recognize and speak about the harms that they did. Too often we slip into white-washing our history which can be very dangerous. I know you aren’t doing that but I see it so commonly that it has trained me to push back when I see anything even a little similar.

Yeah that’s all fair, although I will note that Aristotle was not writing in English, so the implication that this is the same word seems a little questionable.

Sometimes I wish that there was a different and better word to describe the movement, but that’s the one early theorists chose. I think their ideas remain foundational to the movement, and the linguistic connection remains important. Feminism sometimes suffers from a similar if less severe version of this issue.

There is libertarian socialism which is not exactly the same but could be used instead. But it’s a mouthful and those words have their own baggage, some of which has already come up in this thread.

Ultimately, the point of words is to communicate clearly and be understood by as many people as possible. There might be other solutions or ways to communicate but with all this in mind I still feel the best solution is asking people to use the word only for the movement and not these other ideas. But I’m happy to hear if anyone has an alternative.

I think the implication was that without the top predators controlling the hyena population, the ecosystem was out of balance. This is sort of a real ecological phenomenon called meso-predator release, and explains why predation on some herbivores actually declined when wolves were brought back to the western US, though it does not necessarily cause all the plants to die as depicted in the film—the harms are more complicated and nuanced.

However, I do want to say that the implications of this movie that the relationships between species are comparable to those between people is very incorrect and harmful. In fact if you ever rewatch this movie as an adult, some of the embedded ideology is very disturbing. Some authors have argued that the movie implicitly supports fascism, which I am forced to agree with.

Doing this minimizes the violence and oppression that “moderates” in the US government have caused. If and when we defeat the rise of fascism I don’t want people to think that everything is fine when we go back to “normal”. The US government was a problem long before Trump came on the scene, even if he is making things worse.

I knew what you meant but as an anarchist I have to object because you are contributing to this widespread misunderstanding of our movement and what we’re actually advocating for. The Trump administration is a perfect example of the abuses that the state empowers, so I think it’s a crucial time for people to learn about alternatives. This is difficult if people think anarchist just means some violent anti-government mass-shooter type. It is a specific, historical political tradition with lots of deep, insightful thinkers and practical solutions to a wide variety of today’s problems.

Yeah I get that there are right-wing people who call themselves anarchists, and some who are called this by others like OP.

The problem is that none of these people are educated at all on the history or principles of anarchism, so they are using the word incorrectly. They are no more anarchist than North Korea is democratic.

First, no, actually most right-libertarians do not oppose the existence of the nation-state, they just think it should be more limited than it currently is—often in favor of strong state government, which anarchists also oppose.

But again, anarchism is about opposition to all social hierarchies, not just the state. So this includes racial hierarchies, patriarchy, class stratification, and most importantly for this discussion, capitalism. Right-libertarians are pro-capitalist, and they are generally not opposed to several of the other hierarchies I mentioned.

Beyond both being at least somewhat skeptical of state power, there is little agreement between the two ideologies.

Also, I would argue that MAGA’s emphasis on executive power is incompatible with even right-libertarians, so it’s not really possible to support trump and be a libertarian unless you are profoundly ignorant or your commitment to libertarianism is completely performative.

So the bottom part of this meme just doesn’t make any sense at all.

I’ve heard of them, they’re just not anarchists. Especially the MAGA ones.

How do you feel about operation wetback?

I get it, he may seem decent compared to those who came after him… but honestly I’m not sure I’d describe any US president as fundamentally decent.

It’s not a thing, excepting people who don’t know the meaning of the word.

Anarchism is about deconstruction of social hierarchies. This is completely incompatible with all right-wing movements which are fundamentally about strengthening some or all of them.