You’re on Lemmy mate, don’t bs me and tell me you think most people here don’t pirate. People here will downvote you for calling piracy theft but then upvote you for accusing llms of stealing.

And have you never downloaded a picture for a wallpaper, or to repost, send to friends, etc? Because that is equivalent to someone using a local model to do things. We are not talking large scale models, which seems to be what you keep shifting the conversation to. Anyway I’m tired if of this conversation, good bye.

No it doesn’t, you are arguing in ignoring and this is pointless. Have a good one.

1. What are their thoughts on piracy?
2. Have they ever saved an image they saw online to use in a different place (wallpaper, repost the meme, etc.)? What is so different from someone using it to train their own model which they use for themselves?

It doesn’t have to be built on theft. And what are your thoughts on piracy?

“Tons of people”

I was one of those people, on Lemmy, and I’m telling you first hand the vast majority of people did not give a shit, they just wanted a more powerful GPU

You don’t need all that to run local morals, don’t straw man me.

I mean, you certainly don’t need any more energy than you would for video games, for most of the stuff people are looking to use at home.

It is possible to generate it, but even if someone can’t, I don’t see the fuckai people yelling at game Devs for increasing requirements for so little gain, or at GPU Devs for not focusing enough on the draw power of GPUs. In fact, just 1 or 2 years ago I think, NVIDIA released a GPU generation that was only a little more powerful but had a lot more energy efficiency, and they got shat on by the internet because it wasn’t powerful enough - no cared about the lower power draw.

I mean you can also run a generative modal locally using green energy, but try going into fuckai and telling them that.

Lmao in one sentence you perfectly exposed why anarchists hate MLs. Aside from all the historical bs, anarchists are just expected to go along with ML because it’s “better than capitalism”, but you’ll never see any ML giving any ground to anarchists.

Ironically that makes you quite similar to liberals, who always want the left to support them but never give any ground :)

Personally, I can fight more than one thing at a time. But since you don’t think that’s possible, why are you more focused on fighting anarchists in your comment than capitalism? Is this projection? Are you a liberal? 🤔

It’s bad communication. Plenty of people do this, women included.

Didn’t know about that. That’s… Certainly something. Like I knew about stuff she said and believed, but had no clue it ever got to that point.

Anyway, purely on the discussion of word choice and the psychology behind it, I’m still not sure sure if that would classify as misogyny. I assume she posted that picture because she saw it as “proof” (in her eyes) that that person was a man. So, from her point of view, the hate is being directed towards men and not women. Even if they are women from our POV, the hate is really coming from a place of hate towards men IMO, or at least what they see as unmanly men. If it was mainly stemming from a hate of women, I imagine a lot more of them would target trans men instead.

I’ve thought about this before, but don’t see it as misogyny. After all, they don’t see MTF as women. I think it has something in common with gay men receiving more hate and being bigger victims of violence than lesbian women. Maybe it does have something to do with rejecting traditional masculinity - which can be related to misogyny, but is a separate thing.

Lol I don’t disagree but it’s funny to see the votes on Lemmy. Just yesterday someone was getting upvoted for generalising all SAS veterans because of 1 they met + 2 which made the news. But now we’re talking about a trans woman so suddenly people agree we need to respect people who served

Bruh, I literally just repeated your argument at you mate. People disagreeing with you is not the same as being rude. You’re the one who had a burst and went on about me taking things to stupid extremes, and tagging so you can ignore me. It’s funny how you guys talk about how I can’t stop arguing, but have the compulsive need to keep replying to me, when you were the one who initially rude.

I don’t have more time than this for nutters; have a good day and hopefully we’ll never meet again.

Do I have a stalker now 🤔

I literally just used the same argument he did as a counter argument towards him. He got all in a twisted into a knot because of it 🤷

I’m not about to agree with whatever crazy thing people say just because they’ll burst at the seams if I don’t. Fact remains they still haven’t explained what is so inherently wrong with AI itself, or why someone running a small model locally with renewable energy is bad.

Lmao you’re the one who started a fight my dude, get a grip on reality. You got triggered because I used the same argument you did

“Oh no, someone used my own ridiculous argument against me! I better tag them and maje sure to mention it so everyone knows how cool I am, instead of just blocking them”

I know exactly where I am, that doesn’t make it any more or less true. No matter how loud you shout, or how big of a font you use.

Cmon, I know you know that’s a bad faith argument. I could also say that Nazis drink water but drinking water does not make you a nazi, and it hold more weight because AI is a tool, and not a symbol. Driving a car doesn’t make you a nazi; driving a Tesla maybe. Not to mention swastikas have different meanings and connotations in different parts of the world.

For someone who is honestly equating using local AI with renewable energy with fascism, this might fall on deaf ears, but it might also offer perspective. A lot of people I run into in my circles are pro Palestine, pro Ukraine, neuro divergent, lgtq+, from all kinds of races and nationalities, and the vast majority find AI quite appealing and enjoy using it. You just compared all those people to Nazis, and are implying they are fascists.

Which reminds me, a lot of them are also vegan. Animal farming is a lot worse for the environment, and what we do to those animals has a lot more parallels to fascism. How many people saying such things about AI and upvoting it are actually vegan, though?

The computer and the internet were also invented by the military, among other things. That doesn’t mean you are part of, or a supporter of, the military industrial complex. Are you?