I agree, I think Lemmy should add an option to fetch all the historical posts from a remote community. Right now it just starts federating from when the first person subscribes to that community, but it would be better if it was retroactive.

Wow, TIL.

I based that off fedidb but it seems to be very inaccurate. Obviously it wasn’t tracking until a certain point in Lemmy development.

I’ll make a list of the major instances from before the APIcalpyse of June 2023 that are still active. For the Lemmy historians 🧐. I’m mostly basing this by the top admin account on each server, because the admins are listed in order of seniority in the sidebar.

• lemmy.ml - Apr 2019
• lemmygrad - Aug 2019
• hexbear/chapo - July 2020
• szmer.info - Aug 2020
• lemmy.ca - Dec 2020
• sopuli.xyz - Feb 2021
• midwest.social - Aug 2021
• mander.xyz - Dec 2021
• beehaw.org - Jan 2022
• slrpnk.net - April 2022
• feddit.it - May 2022
• lemmy.blahaj.zone - Jan 2023
• infosec.pub - May 2023

Honorable mention to feddit.de which was an early instance too IIRC and now lives on in feddit.org

This is largely just an interesting piece of trivia, but also somewhat notable because servers generally don’t federate content from before they were founded. So the older servers will have local copies of posts and comments from the early days of Lemmy.

For instance @[email protected] actually has 2.37k posts and 1.73k comments. But sh.itjust.works only caches about 850/800 posts/comments from that account, because we only joined the network in June 2023.

Surely has to be https://sopuli.xyz/

The admin is a Finn, although the servers are technically in Germany.

Also it’s extra cool because it’s one of the true OG Lemmy servers, founded in June 2021.

All centralized services. The fediverse is theoretically resistant to that kind of process.

Also you forgot Limewire, the GOAT

Finally, I have been waiting for this.

Lemm.ee over 4,000 MAUs. Lemmy.ca and lemmy.dbzer0.com up to 1.5k after hovering around 1k for most of 2024. All of the major servers seeing solid growth. Good work lemmings, keep it up

Yea you’re probably right. But fuck it, if anybody should be gassing him up it’s other SJW users

That’s the only thing hexbear users get right, they always got their homies backs.

He makes me feel concise at times, which is absurd. But the extra thought and effort he puts into every single comment is exemplary, along with the fact that he’s not afraid to speak his mind even if it goes against the circlejerk. You’re a real one @[email protected]

LOL I literally typed up a comment once saying how cool I thought he was. But then I deleted it without posting because it felt weird.

Though he did drop a pretty dark joke recently that got very bad reviews and had to be removed. Never meet your heroes 😭

Okay, fair enough. Ultimately we live in a world that is still dominated by Europe and America. In order for children to have the best chance of succeeding in this world, it’s necessary for them to have a basic grasp of how things ended up this way. And most of the main characters in that story were of European extraction. That’s the rub of it. It’s not pretty, but it is what it is.

Education is not a purely intellectual pursuit, it’s actually primarily an economic one, now more than ever. I didn’t create this situation, so please don’t go after me for explaining it.

I just said you instead of using the third person one, because it sounds less pretentious. It was a hypothetical, I wasn’t referring to you personally.

I hear you. But each school and indeed each individual history teacher gives a slightly different rendition of history. I learned about many positive black achievements growing up, because my teachers were consciously trying to provide a well rounded perspective. You realize there are a lot of black history teachers too right? I’m sorry about your experience, but let’s not generalize as if it represents every single history class ever taught.

I hope so. I love recognizing people on Lemmy. It’s so much easier and less stressful to interact when you know what to expect from certain usernames. Like for instance I know OP (St*mets) can get irritable at times, but they ultimately mean well and post a lot of good memes.

SemiHemiDemigod is just an elite Lemmy commenter in all facets. No notes.

That does slap. But it’s also just putting a focus on the feel-good parts instead of the whole reality. And that’s not really history imho. It’s just isolated stories without the context that real history demands.

You could also say that white history slaps from that perspective, but that’d be quite insensitive and naive. I’m not trying to make a false equivalency, but I’m just pointing out that if you ignore the painful parts of history, you can’t really learn from it. And that’s the whole point of studying history as an academic pursuit.

It just didn’t make sense to me. I don’t think talking about historical slavery necessarily makes racists feel bad and/or non-racists feel good. It’s just a horrible reality all around, it’s not really an empowering or liberating discussion on any level.

I totally agree with the difficulty communicating, I have been thinking that a lot of my issue with this is likely due to the limitations of the microblogging format, which I have always found to be very silly. I usually can’t express how I really feel with 1000 words, let alone 140 characters. So misinterpretation is inevitable. And honestly that’s probably part of the stickiness of the format, because misinterpretations drive engagement on corporate social media.

Nice name change. At first I thought someone was copying your shtick but then I realized you were the authentic product

That’s a cute comic, thanks for that. I see what you mean, and I could see that happening with the Tulsa Race Massacre because a lot of people actually never learned about it. But not so much with the founding fathers holding slaves, because everyone already knows that.

Unfortunately, I still disagree with your assertions here on a number of levels. It seems to me that you’re tilting at windmills in service of a tweet that inherently makes no sense.

I understand that wasn’t the intent, which is why it seemed to me that the authors understanding of black history was coming from an extremely shallow perspective. I didn’t misread anything, I simply have a more advanced conception of what history is.

If history is defined by excluding all of the bad things that happened, then it’s not actually history, it’s just fairy tales and bedtime stories to help kids sleep at night.

That’s fair, history teachers can certainly get lazy. If you present the information in an engaging way it’s definitely not boring.

The OP states

[Black history] slaps if you have morality

I just don’t understand what that statement is supposed to mean, it doesn’t make any sense to me.

I do agree that it would be helpful to have additional black perspectives to weigh in on this discussion. Unfortunately Lemmy doesn’t seem to have a lot of racial diversity yet. Hopefully we will get there eventually.

Not only do I not think that way, but I also can’t imagine someone getting offended about people mentioning the Tulsa Race Massacre or the fact that the founding fathers held slaves.

Actual racists aren’t going to be offended by those historical facts, they just might argue that they were justifiable in some way. Which is obviously super fucked up, but it’s not like racist people are going to deny the fact that slavery happened or that black people got massacred by white people in history. They literally get off on that shit.

Which is why the tweet seems so strange to me. Black people getting enslaved and massacred and persecuted? That slaps? I fucking hope not.

I’m obviously overthinking but it just triggered my nonsense detector.

Robert Smalls was a really awesome dude. The historical circumstances that determined the course of his life are profoundly tragic.

If you view his life from a cinematic perspective, yeah it slaps. From a historical perspective, he lived and died and the societal conditions which he struggled against remained essentially unchanged. He’s a historical footnote.

I never claimed to speak for all young people? I have loved learning about history since I was a kid. But most people don’t know much about history and don’t have any interest in learning. They find it boring. That’s just what I’ve noticed from being alive on this planet.

I bring up virtue signaling because it seems like the entire point of the tweet is for the person to signal that they are a moral and good person. I don’t even understand the concept of being “offended by black history”. Like what does that even mean and who does it apply to?

She’s possibly talking about being offended by Black history month, which I guess is a thing? But in that case I would still disagree because you could be offended by it for the exact opposite reason, like how people are talking about Morgan Freeman not being a fan of it.