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  • Okay. So I did a little research since I was truly curious.

    https://www.animals24-7.org/2019/10/14/pit-bulls-new-gene-study-shows-it-is-not-all-in-how-you-raise-them/*

    Boom. A genetic link between aggression and certain violent behaviors and pitbulls. 15% of their personality. Caused by an aggressive period of selectively breeding them for dogfights.

    And now I think we should breed pitbulls out of existence.

    @[email protected] (is this how you @ a user?).

    1 source. That’s all it fucking takes. I don’t understand why people who spend so much time on the internet are so mid at arguing. 4 articles of AI slop aren’t going to convince anyone of shit. 2-3 other articles that don’t actually back up your point have the same issue. But you’re prancing all over this thread like you’re hot shit. The issues I mentioned in my previous comment still apply, but here’s a new source for you to use I guess, you’re welcome.

    And of course, I have to obligatorily state that no parallels to human behavior can be drawn from this. No, black people were not “bred for strength”. No, they are not inherently more aggressive. No, we should not just use eugenics to eliminate certain “races” because human races are a social construct (see above diagram). However, dogs work differently, it seems.

    *Edit: actually this source seems to be somewhat problematic since it seems to cover a dispraportionate amount of news related to pitbulls but that doesn’t make the study immediately wrong.

    Okay researching further I found another scientific article going in the opposite direction.

    However, our community sample of Pit Bull-type dogs showed they are not more aggressive or more likely to have a behavioral diagnosis than other dogs. This does not support reliance on breed-specific legislation to reduce dog bites to humans [23

    (Damn, I said I wouldn’t argue but now I seem to be arguing with myself. Don’t worry chat. Imma win.)

    Opens google scholar

    Oh shit. It doesn’t even mention the word pitbull. Investigating further, many of the claims that article makes, like the ones about certain dog breeds needing no/less training to do certain things, are just straight up unsourced and not mentioned in the study. wtf?!

    I am enraged that the article just straight up fucking lied to me and I fell for it. This is why I use google scholar and vet the studies myself, rather than using a search engine normally.

    But it seems like we are back to “pitbulls are products of their environments” again.

    On a miscellaneous note, google scholar seems to have really enshittified. It’s now attempting to show me normal news articles and blog posts, rather than exclusively scientific journals. Eugh.


  • think one paragraph voids decades of data they’ve carefully collected

    Uhm… ackshually 🤓 it’s two paragraphs.

    But in all seriousness, “carefully collected” is a pretty severe misrepresentation of the way the majority of these stats are collected. One source you link says 66%*, but wikipedia says 28%. This is an very large increase.

    This discrepancy is caused, in large part, because the police aren’t very good at reporting on this kind of data. The article you linked, which I quoted goes mentions this, but it doesn’t really go into detail just how bad it is. The police system, particularly in the US has a lot of inherent biases that lead to problematic behaviors and assumptions. Some of them are about race, and some of them are about… dog breeds.

    Long story short, I only really trust hospitals for this sort of data. Insurance companies get their info from the police, who aren’t reliable. Hospitals can have problems, but aren’t going to be problematic as our police system. Interestingly, hospitals also seem to report much lower numbers, like the numbers mentioned in the study mentioned by wikipedia versus the other numbers present. I wonder why that is?

    And one of the articles you linked was AI generated slop that claimed 66% but that was actually a hyperlink to wikipedia’s claim of 28%. And most of the articles you linked were similar, clearly getting the data from the same place, but not actually linking it and/or having broken links.

    Even the best source, the study you linked has issues when it comes to supporting your claims. It acknowledges that which breed has been top of the list for dog fatalities has shifted over time and only now settled on pitbulls. That source also acknowledges how dog breed identification is difficult.

    And then of course, I won’t deny that pitbulls do bite and kill at higher rates. But you are arguing that that somehow makes them inherently more dangerous, when there is simply no evidence for such a thing.

    And yeah, if my dog was a Pittie, I would be defensive too, but I would also be honest that people need to take extra precautions…

    The problem with this argument is that is is very, very similar to arguing that it’s acceptable to be cautious around black people specifically because they are accused of crimes at higher rates. In fact it’s so similar that I’ve seen “pitbull bad” be used as a white supremacist talking point. (which is part of why this argument gets so heated. Usually I just enjoy the popcorn but I finally decided to stop lurking).

    But I’m gonna be real, I don’t really want to argue with someone who just throws a bunch of slop sources they clearly didn’t read at me. Read your damn sources. Use google scholar or similar instead of just a normal search engine, so you don’t get AI slop.

    And I’ll give you some advice: If you want this argument to be well accepted in the future, you should throw in some points that make it clearly, distinctly separate from the white supremacist version of it. Some acknowledgement of the police being bad, or some acknowledgement of pitbull owners or some acknowledgement of how pitbulls don’t rank top in bite strength (at least, according to two of the sources you linked). You complained about getting downvoted when you just posted stats but that’s because people don’t see those stats are an argument about pitbulls, they see someone preparing a setup for “What if I told you some races of people were inherently more dangerous?”.

    As an endnote, human race isn’t real. Perhaps this applies to dog breeds as well, which one commenter noted but you just dismissed it and threw a bunch of slop articles at them instead.


  • Abuse and mistreatment can play a large role in a dog’s aggression, and pit bulls are often subjected to such conditions. In situations like this, dogs learn to be aggressive and will bite humans as a result. However, studies have shown that pit bulls’ aggression is largely due to their living conditions, and they aren’t necessarily naturally dangerous dogs

    While many pit bulls can be held responsible for dog bites, it’s also worth noting that their reputation makes people quick to blame the breed. Other dog breeds have similar physical features as pit bulls, so people assume that’s what they are.

    From the very article you linked in the other comment.

    Don’t talk facts when your source refutes your claim.




  • No. Netplan uses it’s own yaml format, which people would have to learn and use. I don’t want to do that, I would rather just configure my existing networkmanager setup, rather than learning another abstraction layer over what is already an abstraction layer.

    I understand that cockpit (and similar type tools) are “the whole kitchen sink” of utilities, and it may seem like they come with more than you may need. But that doesn’t change the fact that they get the job done, and in some usecases, are better than dedicated tools.








  • Here’s my commentary on the options you listed in the image:

    Anaconda: They changed the licensing so that it’s not really fully FOSS, as the repos have restrictions on them. There are also other issues like this dark pattern of a download page.

    But, forgetting about the licensing or problematic company practices: The software itself is trash. Worst thing I’ve ever used. It’s sooooo slow to install packages when it’s doing the “solver” thing. You can use something faster like mamba or miniconda, but then you still have to deal with package availability being poor, as the anaconda repos don’t have everything, and much of what they have is often too old.

    Docker desktop: It’s proprietary. I mean you can use it, but you seem to be interested in open source stuff. Also see caveats to podman desktop below.

    Podman Desktop: Technically this will work. But podman desktop is really designed more for development of containerized applications, rather than developing in containers.

    Nix: Nix doesn’t work on Windows, so you would have to require WSL or something like that.

    Fedora VM: I recommend enlightenment as a desktop environment. Very small, but also modern and clean looking. You’ll have to configure it to be a bit more similar to windows, but it’s a lot more intuitive to use than i3.

    There are some other caveats to your environment. “The right .Net Sdks version” — however, the best extensions for C# development are proprietary and cannot be freely used in the fully FOSS versions of vscode.

    it also requires users to learn i3wm and possibly use the command line, which may not be ideal for everyone.

    Yeah, don’t do this. I agree with @[email protected], work with them, rather than forcing them to work with you. Collaboration goes both ways.

    Another recommendation I have is to just see how people in a similar circumstance do what you do. There are plenty of people who do software and game development on twitch, and you can just go on their streams and ask how they collaborate. One method I saw is using trello, a task management software, and artists would upload models there as deliverables. They already have their own workflow, which they probably work efficiently with. And it’s not really the job of an artist to integrate models and art into the game, that’s the programmers job.