The Twits got their way and now mastodon will be a bonfire.

Capitalism at work! Privatise the gain, socialise the losses

Can’t say I had the same experience, but staying on an outdated version is going to make you run into problems as the one you just experienced.

21.3? Why not upgrade to the latest?

OP seems to be talking about high level institutions collaborating with the opensource community to make linux phones a reality. Those aren’t “normal people” but politicians and their ilk. They should be thinking different than the average consoomer i.e not “oh it’s shiny and popular, fuck the price”.

Drama?

Interesting, but I’m curious about how it comlaresbto other technologies in cost, maintenance, and efficiency. There are molten salt batteries being tested as well as hydrogen fuel cells, even heated concrete and flywheels.

These seem simple but that can hide complex problems.

This is what I said

There was no documentation or guide for embedding it into

This is what you posted

If you’d like to embed Servo in your own application, consider using tauri-runtime-verso, a custom Tauri runtime, or servo-gtk, a GTK4-based web browser widget.

Great documentation and exceptional guide! 👏 What next, are you going to tell me that the code is the documentation? “Just read the code”?

That’s disappointing. But maybe once they officially release it, we will have more information.

So, in order to embed Servo you need:

• to use Tauri: sure, pull in a huge other project to be able to use our project 🫰
• use GTK: again, pull in a bunch of unrelated dependencies to be able to embed our project

I can’t give servo some graphical surface (OpenGL, Vulkan, Metal, DX, whatever), call a function to open a webpage and see it draw on that surface. There’s no lib with documentation on crates.io, no bindings for other languages, and non of the things I mentioned in my previous comment.

It feels like this is built just like Gecko was for Firefox: single consumer with the consumer being the “reference implementation”.

No. And that is a good thing.

Why is that a good thing?

If it has secure boot, is opensource, and not dependent on having a single entity approve of self compiled binaries OE blobs (like UEFI forcing Microsoft’s approval of bootloaders), then heck yeah, this might be great! Otherwise, if it’s just some proprietary, closed source alternative to the existing crap, my enthusiasm is limited.

Does BIOS have secure boot? Or can secure boot be built upon anything?

I should’ve been clearer: my misgiving is the claim of “embeddable”. If embeddable means having to read the code to find out how instead reading documentation, tutorials, and examples, nah, it ain’t embeddable. It’s possibly embeddable.

It’s like claiming NIXOS were user friendly, assembly being easy, or Arch Linux stable.

How easy is it to embed though? Documentation, tutorial, examples, etc. Making it as embeddable as Gecko is a losing strategy. Making it as embeddable as Blink and WebKit though, then we can talk about embeddable.

I mean embedding into applications. There was no documentation or guide for embedding it into anything last I checked and this is just a demo browser that’s being released. If embedding it into applications is as hard as Gecko, it will have no chance against Blink and WebKit.

Ai still needs them to mindlessly make a robot factory with AI to print AI. I’m sure it’ll be safe

Sure. I’ll believe it when I see it.

Then definitely talk to a lawyer. They would be able to give you the best advice for your country and situation.

It’s about prestige. Once it catches on and rich people are seen with it, normal people will start buying them too to look prestigious too.