For the people like me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_and_Tans
The Black and Tans (Irish: Dúchrónaigh) were constables recruited into the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) as reinforcements during the Irish War of Independence.[1][2] Recruitment began in Great Britain in January 1920, and about 10,000 men enlisted during the conflict. The majority were unemployed former British soldiers from England, Scotland and Wales who had fought in the First World War. Some sources count Irish recruits to the RIC from 1920 as “Black and Tans.”[3][4][5][6][7]
The Black and Tans had a reputation for brutality; they committed murder, arson and looting and became notorious for reprisal attacks on civilians and civilian property. Their actions further swayed Irish public opinion against British rule and drew condemnation in Britain. The Black and Tans were sometimes confused with the Auxiliary Division, a counterinsurgency unit of the RIC, also recruited during the conflict and made up of former British officers.[8] At the time, “Black and Tans” was sometimes used for both groups.[3][9] Another force, the Ulster Special Constabulary (commonly called the “B-Specials”), was founded in 1920 to reinforce the RIC in Northern Ireland.
Which sure makes this pretty awkward
especially considering that it’s pretty good for a macro.
That’s just a ruined half pint of Guinness, so, aptly named
Do they sell it in Ireland? Does everyone go silent or is it funny awkward no matter where they sell it? Having just found out about this today, before this, I probably would have made a huge mistake and order it and joke around about why everyone is so uncomfortable.
You can order a “half & half” but, probably will need to explain and get dirty looks for perceived crimes against Guinness (I think it’s a great drink, the Irish tend to be a bit protective of their stout though, in my experience).
I have found that to be dependent on what you mix it with. I had it where they mixed it with shit beer, so of course it’s going to taste like shit. This is in America though.
I’ve never seen any yungling here. there are some people who order “black and tan” at a bar (stout and ale mixed) and Ive seen a guy from west belfast get pretty pissed off that they said the term at
I’ve never seen those for sale here for what it’s worth.
I have heard of black and tan drink before which I believe is half Guinness half beer / ale but I’ve never had one or seen one ordered.
They have to know though, right? Where else would they sell it that there wouldn’t be Irish people there. I guess the mixing it half and half would piss them off from the get go anyway? “Might as well just go all the way, full asshole.”
Almost certainly. Maybe it tastes nice. Not something I’d be rushing to try mind you.
Everyone goes silent. It is at best a faux pas. Just. Don’t. It’s disrepectful.
It’s also specifically a reference to the song of the same name: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_Out,_Ye_Black_and_Tans
Fun fact: it only reached #29 in Ireland but got to #1 in Scotland as part of a long held rivalry between the two countries over which one hates the English more.
I think Ireland is winning cause they’re 26/32 parts free from the British
Don’t forget that after they were disbanded,.many of the notorious scum went to Palestine. Yep, that Palestine.
I WAS BORN IN A DUBLIN STREET, WHERE THE LOYAL DRUMS DID BEAT
THE LOVING ENGLISH FEET, THEY WALKED ALL OVER US
Nah republicans would be like “oh I’m Irish too.” And blindly support anything anti-british “cuz 1776”
This but unironically. US Republicans wouldn’t necessarily get along with nationalist Irishmen IRA types but they lean towards supporting them on the basis that they don’t want to be ruled by the filthy English.
I can’t think about the black and tans without thinking about that hilarious episode of This Time with Alan Partridge. I heard that someone bet steve coogan he couldn’t get the BBC to play irish rebel songs.
When he is funny that man is absolutely hilarious. I haven’t seen that one but I’m assuming he pulled it off?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEjEGbAFzJU it’s 4 minutes if you’re interested.
Hahahaha. “Oh my god that was like an anthem for the IRA”. Brilliant. Thanks.
Oh, Ah, Up the 'Ra
The political compass was a psyop to legitimize authoritarianism and pretend that leftist movements could be authoritarian.
Tankies don’t need a compass to think they’re left.
The point is to make others think they are left
So explain all those leftist movements that ended up creating dictatorships like the Soviet Union and the PRC.
But they weren’t even Scotsmen!
I’m sorry I have to be the one to tell you this, but calling a country communist doesn’t make it a communist country, that would require implementing communist principles which are inherently at odds with a top down autocracy.
Leftist ideologies are not compatible with authoritarianism.
Why cant there exist a leftist authoritarian ideology?
Core leftist principles are directly at odds with authoritarianism.
What would you consider core leftist principles?
Labor owning the means of production and the value of their labor, as well as every person actually being equal and having equal influence means the system inherently is collective rather than authoritative.
