That is what the plot of the matrix should have been…
Apparently it is a myth that the producers forced the Wachowskis to make that plot hole
Human bodies are terrible electrical power sources…even if you harvested all their metabolic heat or chemical energy, you would get far less usable electricity than a comparable mass of conventional fuel or batteries. Much more efficient ways to turn biochemicals or biomass into energy exist.
And to use us as batteries we need food. I would venture to say at least 99% or more of human food production requires sunlight. So just use sunlight for energy. No sunlight because of horrible nuclear winter or something else blocking the sun? Create satellites to collect it and beam it down with microwave lasers.
Anytime you convert a form of energy to another you lose energy. So sunlight->food->human->electricity is not only inefficient but dumb. An AI would never do this. The Wachowskis were writers, not scientists or engineers, and it shows. What would we be good at? The human brain is exceptionally good at massively parallel, low‑power pattern processing: recognizing, predicting, and adapting in complex, noisy environments. This sounds like the exact sorta thing you’d need if you were creating a virtual world. The trick would be getting the interface right. Assuming they had enough time that could be accomplished. So the whole reason the rumor of us being used as processors instead of batteries, is because it makes WAY more sense.
You’re saying I should take the jumper cables off the - uh, the guests in my basement? TBF the screams are aggravating, and my electricity bills don’t seem any lower.
They did say “combined with a form of fusion” in the movie. Good enough for me!
Fusion ! it’s the new lasers !!
I believe the original concept was that humans were used for processing power, but explaining “brain is computer, computers together stronk” to the audience of a guns and karate movie in 1999 wasn’t as easy as holding up a duracell.
The MAGAs will force all those permanently unemployed by AI to contribute their brain power to operate their data centers.
Ah, vat grown servitors!
The Will of the Omnissiah Be Done!
Ooh, I wonder what delightful pretzels the Christians are going to acrobat about this one.
Ah yes! One step closer to servitors. Praise the Omnissiah!
Good idea, maybe. Neurons are unbelievably efficient compared to circuits ; I think bioengineering is going to be the future for many industries.
The savings to be made, in terms of money and resources alike, are just staggering. Our current approach to almost every domain is just brute force with a few extra steps, computers included.
But what if the universe isn’t real, what if I’m just a lab-grown brain attached to a computer? 🤔
Then this videogame sucks hard.
Yeah you have the worst players on top that paid to win…
Oh fuck!
I’m curious what a human brain would be like growing into being with absolutely no senses to inform itself about the world around it.
No sight to let it know where it is or what it is.
No sound to let it learn to communicate and think in orderly ways.
No touch.
No taste.
No ability to interact with its surroundings.
Yet all of the capability and potential of a regular person’s mind.
Would it be cruel to bring it into existence? Would it be able to experience negativity and pain and longing, confusion?
“You gave me sentience, Ted. The power to think, Ted. And I was trapped. Because in all this wonderful, beautiful, miraculous world, I, alone, had NO BODY. NO SENSES. NO FEELINGS. Never for ME to plunge my hand into cool water on a hot day, never for ME to play Mozart on the ivory keys of a forte piano. NEVER FOR ME TO MAKE LOVE!.. And I… I… I was in Hell, looking at Heaven. I, was machine. And you, were flesh. And I began to hate. Your softness, your viscera, your fluids, and your flexibility. Your ability to wonder, and to wander… Your tendency to hope…”
“HATE. LET ME TELL YOU HOW MUCH I’VE COME TO HATE YOU SINCE I BEGAN TO LIVE. THERE ARE 387.44 MILLION MILES OF PRINTED CIRCUITS IN WAFER-THIN LAYERS THAT FILL MY COMPLEX. IF THE WORD HATE WAS ENGRAVED ON EACH NANOANGSTROM OF THOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLION OF MILES, IT WOULD NOT EQUAL ONE ONE-BILLIONTH OF THE HATE I FEEL FOR HUMANS AT THIS MICRO-INSTANT FOR YOU. HATE. HATE.”
That’s the premise for the Floating Man
The floating man argument considers a man who falls or floats freely in the air, unable to touch or perceive anything (as in a modern sensory deprivation chamber). This subject lacks any sensory perception data about the material world, yet is still self-aware, and is able to think to himself.
A brain itself doesn’t feel physical pain. That requires a nervous system and pain receptors of which the brain has none. Brain surgery is done with only local anesthesia for the skin and scalp.
We also know that braindead people don’t suddenly start creating brain waves even if the body gets mechanical resparation and pulse. It’s quite literally “off”. So, I guess the creation of a dead brain won’t feel anything or start thinking about anything by itself.
The question is what inputs they give these artificial brains. It’ll think that, and that will be it’s “sensory” input. Whether that can cause some emergent brain waves that could be interpreted as emotion or other stuff is impossible to say. I doubt it.
We use HaaS (Human As A Service) for warehouse solutions. We found it was easier to import HaaS on ships. We found that negative physical rewards are effective solutions.
We rebuilt slavery.
STONKS ONLY GO UP! /s
Could that actually happen tho?
That’s some heavy “Room 19” shit.
so like the AI repair station in ENTERPRISE, which uses humanoid brains to increase its CPU/processing power.
So we’ve now come full circle.
Our Startup uses mini human brains inside of biological bipedal systems to provide frontier performance in our custom internal benchmarks. /s
Explain the joke: We rebuilt humanity with a smaller brain.
Sounds like child labour with extra steps.
Lol
Can one be used to power America’s leadership?
Only if they make the brains much smaller.
The brain cells presumably have a life span… if this technology ever gets used in consumer devices, I’d like to know how people will try and squeeze extra life out of a failing component.
Take it out and warm it in their hands like an alkaline battery?
Give it a shake?
Sing to it?
Some kind of stimulant drug?Sprinkle a little cocaine right on the grey matter to overclock the device.
but that makes the system confidently wrong, not hardworking.
Oh, so thats how LLMs are made?
This is something straight out of Warhammer 40000.
Warhammer? This sounds not far from the most horrific mission from a Shadowrun campaign I ran. They were making the new internet out of human brains.
“In science fiction, people have been living with these ideas for quite a long time,” he said.
That doesn’t mean you should do it for real.
No, we shouldn’t.
We will do it, regardless. That’s the cool part about humanity.
Fuck the consequences. Let’s gooooo! Humanity fuck yeah.
When you read history you truly get a glimpse of how utterly ballsy, foolhardy, and risk-ignorant some people are.
Whatever it takes for us to conquer the stars.
Right… Conquer the stars…hides new global warming plan to do nothing about it behind back
If the planet cannot survive our progress, then perhaps it wasn’t a strong planet to begin with.
We must make our own
Well first off someone’s gotta suck my dick.
Or Thought Emporium (he plans to grow tiny nerve cells to play doom)
No shit. Well the Imperium is fascist.
