• Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    20 hours ago

    You applied a perversion of my logic.

    I did not say all immigrants were cowards. I said “people who emigrate in response to things getting bad are cowards.”

    You not reading my sentence in full and instead splicing it to fit your image of me is a tad annoying.

    Effectively, I’m saying those who flee at the start of when things get bad instead of trying to stop it are cowards. If you can make a difference, you should. That’s my viewpoint in life.

    “Going somewhere for a better life” is not what I’m against. “Refusing to attempt to stop the decay of your current space” is what I’m against. People like the leadership dems, who flop down in the face of a foe. That’s cowardice.

    It’s an understandable thing to do. That won’t stop me from thinking they’re cowards.

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      Those who flee when things get bad are also going somewhere for a better life.

      And my example of applying your logic still fits as many people who come to the US have fled countries that were going to shit.

      Are you going to say that for example every Philippino who has moved away for a better life because the Philippines is pretty shite to live in if your aren’t rich - are cowards?

      You can think what I’m saying is annoying all you want, but you cannot just make a blanket statement for people who are leaving the US and calling them cowards without applying that logic to other people in other countries who have done the same. And I think most of us would get a bad taste in our mouths if we started saying that Philippinos are cowards for leaving their country instead of staying and fixing their country. It’s not that simple. Especially not for those groups in society who are being persecuted.

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        8 hours ago

        I don’t see how the blanket statement is an issue. “Bad taste in your mouth” isn’t exactly a great argument for or against something.

        Fascism is evil. People need to fight it.

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            so you think no one online ever does anything, huh? I’m already preparing. Voting isn’t enough… Resistance is best when organized, and I’m advocating for my union to take steps to be ready as well as taking them myself. I’m not standing by idle. I campaigned in election season to help fight it there. And now that we lost the election, I’m taking other measures.

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              4 hours ago

              Maybe some of the people who move away from the US are also doing their part to help their country in ways you haven’t thought of? They can still advocate for their values and beliefs even of they don’t live in the country. You have a very limited scope on what people are doing and not doing in this situation. You might benefit from calming your ego a little bit and consider that your way isn’t the only way to combat a facistic leader.

              It’s good that you try and do your part, I just dislike your superiority complex about it and how you blindly judge anyone who reacts differently than what you deem the right way to handle the situation.

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              4 hours ago

              The fact that you think your union has any standing anymore shows you aren’t actually prepared for what’s happening.

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                Unions were here before they were legal and they’ll be here after. The fact that you think unions rely purely on legal power suggests that you don’t actually understand unions.

                It’s a useful tool for finding like minded people to organize with either way. And by organize, I do not mean for just peaceful protesting.