• KaRunChiy@fedia.io
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    12 days ago

    Me and my fiancee both work full time to just barely survive each month with no savings because the CoL is so fucking high it’s unmaintainable. And if you reply with “just move”, first: I’m in the midwest, it’s not AS bad out here, and second: Moving is a privilege, it’s expensive, time consuming, and often times you end up in a worse spot than you were before

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      12 days ago

      Don’t worry. All that work you’re doing will pay off… your landlord’s fifth mortgage.

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      I’d love to know your version of “just barely” is you have two adults working full time in a 2 person household.

      Maybe your mortgage is far higher then I’m imagining.

      I live in an apartment, but it’s overpriced, and it’s just me. This world is designed to be a 2 person household.

      So I have to imagine you’re living beyond your means. I’m living beyond my means too, but I also don’t have a decent wage either. So living at all is living beyond my means.

      You should add up your whole house income, divide that number by 4, and THAT number should be what your mortgage shouldn’t be higher than.

      I suspect your mortgage is probably much higher than that number.

      Either that or we have different definitions of “just getting by”.

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    11 days ago

    Let’s get over the idea that it’s a generation war and not a class war. Thinking all boomers are rich and own houses is like thinking all gen z are lazy. Neither is true by a long shot, but this is what the oligarchs and corporations want us to think about each other so we get distracted and don’t notice that they are the ones buying up all the housing so we can’t and they can rent to us at whatever price they want. Let’s stick together against them instead.

    edit to add: And BTW don’t forget the next gens are growing up in an even worse situation and will face the effects of living under an autocracy and the effects of unaddressed climate change, while you get old and boomers are gone. Who do you think they’re going to blame? You, that’s who, while those in power laugh at all of us.

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      11 days ago

      Let’s also stop using terms like Gen Z or Boomers altogether. They are often used by the media to make articles seem more interesting to certain target groups. But from a scientific point of view, they are about as meaningful as zodiac signs.

      “Here’s why Cancers can’t keep their money together and why Scorpios nevertheless are constantly jealous of their standard of living.”

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        They were originally created by the advertisement agencies to know how to tweak their products and advertising. It was never supposed to be an all knowing way of separating people. It was just supposed to help sell products.

  • iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com
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    Please stop falling for efforts to divide the working class.

    Amy such efforts should immediately be viewed as suspicious. The divide is not old vs young, or white vs black, or even rich vs poor. It is the capital class versus the labor class.

    Boomers grew up in a very tiny slice of global history where the working class actually got improvements in their material conditions, so it is hard for them to understand the struggles of people before or after… but they are being ground down by capitalism the same as the rest of us.

    Your comrades at work may not understand the importance of unions or collective action, but they are still your comrades. Your grandmother may not realize that all of her extra productivity went to make billionaires richer, but she is still your comrade.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    Hey Gen Z, first time being gaslit by boomers? Heh, yyeeeaaaahhhhhhh…they do that. Now imagine having them as your parent, and you’re 5, and you have to just live with their bullshit.

    ~Sincerely, Gen X and the older millenials.

  • bassomitron@lemmy.world
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    12 days ago

    And yet Gen Z turned out for… Trump? He’ll surely help the economy and enable a new era of magically plentiful high paying, stable jobs.

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      12 days ago

      Less than half of us voted. As a member of Gen Z who DID vote for Khamala its because the only good thing she does is not be Trump.

      A good portion of our generations more liberal/left-leaning side just got done having the shit beaten out of them by cops before getting kicked out of school for protesting against the genocide in Gaza.

      What makes you think any of these people want to turn around and vote for a law-and-order ex-DA who’s ignoring some of the worst atrocities of our times?

      Everyone in this generation who isn’t jaded and disillusioned is a fascist or fascist sympathiser (same difference :p). No one has the energy to care let alone vote.

      They probably won’t until establishment democrats keel over, and unfortunately it looks like medical science kept them alive and puttering until it was too late.

      source

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        Boomers protested Vietnam. Millennials Iraq.

        Kids want change. Sometimes that is for a good cause and sometimes it is about draining the swamp and hurting others.

        But if you needed to be convinced that it was worth voting against a rapist fascist who hid nothing? You were never an ally.

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          Its not that they need convincing to vote against it, its that they needed to be convinced their vote would even fucking do anything.

          Most of us are convinced that we’re dying in the climate wars before we hit middle age regardless of who we vote for, the rest where the dipshits that went out and voted for Trump.

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              Would it make my life and the lives of millions of other Americans easier by not having a target painted on our backs for probably as long as our country stands? (We’ll probably never see another election again IMO) Yeah sure, that’s why I voted for Khamala.

              That being said she wasn’t going to do anything to meaningfully stop the horrors of late stage capitalism. Either way I’m probably going to die by middle age in the climate wars.

              Its just now that they’ll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.

              Ones certainly worse, but neither actually seemingly give me the possibility of living a full and happy life. Even if I do make it to old age I’ll be living in a dying world, clinging to whatever habitable sliver of earth I’d have the privilege of finding.

              Honestly until we start being friendly and share cookies with the ghouls hiding behind the funds managed by Americas institutional investment firms which collectively own everything, I don’t think we’ll be solving anything.

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                Its just now that they’ll happen even sooner, and now I have to worry about being put in a camp because of my prescription to estrogen.

                And that alone should have been reason enough for anyone who actually gave even the slightest of shits.

                Growing up is realizing you aren’t going to win. But you can lessen harm.

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                  Yeah except that for previous generations not “winning” wasn’t an inherent global existential threat.

                  Its hard to be motivated when you know either way you’re not getting the full life you where promised. Especially when the issue at hand is someone else’s problem. (From the perspective of my cis Gen Z counterparts.)

                  I’m not saying its the right way to operate, I’m saying its how lots of people do naturally. Its unfortunately human, and its taken advantage of by design.

                  Its easy to keep people preoccupied when they’re a weeks pay away from starvation.

  • Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca
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    12 days ago

    Maybe the boomers need to stop working and die, so the better paying jobs and wealth can come to the younger generations.

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      So: boomers have had the easy life, they’re wealthy and own nice houses, but also they still have to keep working even though they’ve reached retirement age, but that’s just because they want to keep you from getting their fantastic job that they still keep working at even though they have the easy life and plenty of money … 🤦