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      Yeah I treated all of the stated limitations of MIT robotics projects for the next 25 years as universal & wasn’t aware of the progress in manufacturing + logistics until say 2019

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    Very nice

    Also very scary as this is just the next step after what Boston dynamics has already shown. You can bet your ass that military leaders are jerking off over these things

    Granted, their battery life will still be Abysmal but that too is being resolved over time.

    I’m not afraid of self aware terminators. I’m afraid of sad dictators with tiny penis syndrome getting access to shit like this in, say, a decade from now.

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    We really do live in the cyber punk dystopia predicted. It’s just way less neon lights.

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      only if you live in upper north america; western europe; or australia. lol

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            Sigh… I mean… I tried. And while there is much to be said for it, there is a lot to be said against it too. It’s kind of a win some lose some deal. Depends on where you live. If I was in the USA I’d fuck right off to basically anywhere, and SE Asia wouldn’t be a bad bet. Thing is, they don’t just accept people willy nilly. Unless you want to endure a permanent border hopping enema, you need a work visa, student visa, or retirement visa, and those all come with their own hurdles.

            Good luck tho, I can def vibe with the sentiment.

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      What do you mean, as entertainment? Most people currently seem entertained by these.

      But this is just getting started.

      As helpful androids? Sure, can it one day clean my house and do my shopping? I’d buy one (though I suppose they would have some awful privacy problems).

      As military robots? Can they one day operate a tank? Carry and fire weapons? I can think of a few people that want that.

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        Well there you go… I guess I am in the minority on this. I don’t want these things anywhere near me or my family.

        But yes I can imagine cops loving the idea of these things crushing protestors throats in the street.

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          Yes I can see some really altruistic uses for these but they’re outweighed by the malicious ones.

          Like RING cameras and the other brands, would be super cool to help locate lost children and elderly but bad people are going to use them for fascism.

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      I imagine a display such as this drives Elon mad with the dismal human-dancing-in-a-costume display he put on for his completing product. If true, I want this.

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      I absolutely want to see robots automating hard manual labor. I also want to see affordable personal robots that can take care of all my chores so I can enjoy doing things I’m actually interested in.

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    That’s extremely impressive. As soon as these can do this stuff on random surfaces and with spatial awareness then we are probably past the event horizon for some significant, scary and futuristic shit.

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      I’ll fight you in that war. I’ll fight for science, for better living standards, for the future, against reactionary anprims.

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        I think it’s not about primitivism, but discarding tools that atrophy us rather than empower us.

        I’m not sure what side humanoid robots fall on.

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          but discarding tools that atrophy us rather than empower us.

          In the book it discarded tools that empowered us and ending up atrophying humanity basically forever, and even when the atrophy supposedly ended for the price of unbelivable suffering, it was only vulgar numerical and territorial growth, not empowerment. And it STILL required usage of not only forbidden tech but also technomagic required to even have a primitivist interstellar civilization.

          Butlerian jihad was deeply reactionary war and every leftist should fight against the bastards that set up the Great Convention system.

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            The Jihad was the basis for the development of mentats, navigators, prescience, most of what the Bene Gesserit could do, etc.

            The spice became a cause of atrophy as well when people became reliant on it, but that’s consistent with the theme.

            Fuck the Great Convention obviously, but the Jihad was (mostly) good actually.

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              The Jihad was the basis for the development of mentats, navigators, prescience, most of what the Bene Gesserit could do, etc.

              Supremacist superhuman cults and objectification of humans are good and empowering according to you? Wow how nice. Also you forgot nice tleilaxan things like turning every woman into breeding tank or genetically engineered slaves. Prescience? Did you missed literally every book constantly saying “prescience bad”?

              The spice became a cause of atrophy as well when people became reliant on it, but that’s consistent with the theme.

              Yes it’s consistent with the theme of butlerian jihad atrophying humanity to the point of being hooked on barely understood space heroin. The atrophy and decay of human minds went so far barely anyone even thought about that.

              Fuck the Great Convention obviously, but the Jihad was (mostly) good actually.

              Jihad literally plunged humanity into millenia of slavery and serfdom. I find it absolutely wild that any leftist would support this.

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                The Jihad empowered people to do independently even more than what prior generations could do with computers. I don’t think the weird cults were the only possible outcome, they just made for a better story about power and politics.

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                  Independently? Of what, humanity’s creations? Well, that’s true, jihadists destroyed basically entire civilization. 99% of humanity were slaves or serfs, the nobility and merchants were even more static than ever, the instant teleportation that eventually allowed for galactic or even multi galactic scale spread seen basically no use except making money since the distant planet Arrakis was just 200 LY from Earth and most of mentioned worlds even closer. Most “progressive” factions like Ixians or Tleilaxu took thousands of years to actually invent something, even entirely legal. Even maintaining the space civilization relied on impossible magical tech. Education and science were abysmal, superstition widespread, it made the cults inevitable, just they were real because of space heroin and magic.

                  they just made for a better story about power and politics.

                  This isn’t really the story about power and politics, it’s a classical Greek tragedy where everything is fucked no matter what because everything has been setup to fail by the story premise, which is precisely the butlerian jihad.

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          Robots are always on the side of their masters.

          Kung fu robots don’t work for usa, so they’re on my side.

          Boston dynamics dog robots work for usa, so they’re not on my side.

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    Mechatronics engineers and scifi nerds from the 90s would salivate over what’s on offer in robotics today.

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    Now that’s what i call a flex of your technological power between tradition and modernity. Fantastic performance.

    Random thought, I know it’s still better to not have wars at all, but future wars would be nicer and more fair if losing meant receiving a knock-out kick in yo nuts from a martial art master robot instead of being killed by random boring drones.

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      Not as clumsy or random as an imperial trooper US Marine, but an elegant weapon for a more civilized age.

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      Don’t worry, you’re much more likely to be instantly annihilated by a tiny suicide drone.

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        We in the west don’t even remember what a society can achieve without the bloodsucking billionaire parasites and shareholders siphoning off wealth. For us that would be “splurging”, for less insane societies it would be common sense.

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    Once receiving the signal Chinese household robots sold to the west gonna do project atomic heart, by kicking you in the nuts.

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    These are copying human movements i think. But yeah, there is an attempt to make these robots look cool so humans wont resist when they patrol the streets.

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      These are copying human movements i think

      You’re saying that like it’s not impressive even if that were true. Human motion capture can’t react fast enough to loss of balance with the speed of the moves they were doing (neither can a fully pre-programmed routine with no real time processing), especially for something smaller than the human operator for which you wouldn’t have the intuition of how to right it, especially with conventional motion capture that doesn’t give you feedback like moving your body does (unless they built a fully featured motion capture system that’s both super low latency and gives the operator complete and accurate mechanical feedback on all degrees of freedom, in which case you’d think they’d feature that more than the robots themselves because that’s way more impressive.) Even if they were all piloted by humans, they’re still autonomously processing all those motion inputs to be compatible with its body.

      But yeah, there is an attempt to make these robots look cool so humans wont resist when they patrol the streets.

      Don’t worry, we’ll never have this problem in the West because humans over here like being police bastards too much to let some robots take their fun away.

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        Don’t worry, we’ll never have this problem in the West because humans over here like being police bastards too much to let some robots take their fun away.

        Most Americans would be happy if the cops just started wearing better tasting boots

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        Oh man can you imagine if they made a control interface fit a hamster or a lab mouse. The hilarity that would follow to have a line of these doing material arts and one just running in place and trying to stuff food in it’s speaker box.

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      At 0:32 when the robots bend their knees they all do two little hops with one foot to keep balanced, but not all robots are doing the same hop. The middle robot does two large hops whereas the left rear robot does one small hop and then only lifts his “toes”.

      It could be a combination of pre-programmed movements with a balancing program on top

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        Yeah or just multiple people controlling groups of them. Its impressive though, sure. I just hate the idea behind it - to get people to like these things.

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        I mean, sure, you can probably make an argument for less racism when we have robots. But still, its going to be pretty horrible for everyone.

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          Probably not one that stands up to scrutiny.

          If they have fixed programming, the bias would be consistent, but still there, because it would be based upon systems that are already inherently bias.

          Any current ML system is beholden to the data/constraints it was built with, if inherent bias exists in the data it will exist in the resulting system.

          That’s before you even start taking in to account the infrastructure that would be managing them being potentially corrupt or having their own interpretations of “public safety”.

          “These bots from <generic third party> are bringing in more cases against the <“good” people>, but these ones from <tech company with the same bigoted ideology as us> can be tweaked to target the <“bad” people>, which of these two companies should we purchase our inventory from ?”