They’ll happily make the same choice again too, even as the country burns down around us. The left wont support war crimes no matter what gun you try to hold to their head. And the dem party cant win anything without them. What to do…
Abandon AIPAC funding? nooo, that crazy! cant do that, right?
How do you figure that? When what I criticize is the lack of political action and ambition by the democrats when facing Trump.
As an example Pelosy was a menace for blocking actions against Trump, at his last presidency, there’s a long list of lack of doing anything, even when it’s desperately needed!!
This is not on the left, they have been screaming that more needs to be done, that the democratic party lacks ambition. How the fuck is it their fault?
The problem is that democracy in USA is dysfunctional, and Democrats are absolutely part of that problem.
That has nothing to do with saying they are the same, because obviously democrats were the lesser evil, and obviously everybody should have turned up to vote. But the reason they didn’t, was that democrats didn’t give them a good enough reason to do so, backing an 80 year old relic for most of the campaign.
I actually tried to get people to see why it was important to vote Biden instead of Trump, but people simply didn’t care.
So what do YOU think should have been done differently, because Biden would have lost even worse than Harris. How is it not the fault of democrats that they didn’t manage to get their presidential candidate elected over an evil sociopathic liar like Trump?
And how is it wrong to reflect over it, and point it out?
Democrats are part of the problem, yes. I wrote them a really angry letter, that I’m sure never was read, on the day after election day.
What’s up for dispute here is that I think “leftists” who refused to vote are largely to blame for this specific situation we’re in now. They didn’t care and here we are. You seem to understand those people’s perspectives and put all blame on the party which I find absurd. It’s a common attitude on this platform and it’s an incorrect reading of reality.
Imagine how bad they see the democrats to be, when the democratic voters simply failed to show up!
If they think Democrats are no better than republicans, they kind of have a point. Harris had nice ideas about helping people buy a house, but how the fuck does that help the homeless or others that are REALLY struggling, way beyond the ability to buy a house?
If you can buy a house with a little help, you are not struggling to survive. Democrats are not there for the poor. There is very little idealism left in American politics, it’s been squashed by 2 majority parties that monopolize politics.
That’s not a fault of the poor, or the leftists that want real improvements, maybe like the Scandinavian model. AOC has explained this again and again, but democrats still pander to the right, because they are more in favor of wall street than helping the poor.
Some of those people voted for Trump, in part because they are stupid, but also in part to bring the pain to others too.
That’s what you get with a dysfunctional democracy, and PLEASE tell me again how that isn’t also a problem with the democrats???
That’s a straw man argument, I never claimed any such thing. Not giving a shit, doesn’t mean you are not responsible.
Your logic is flawed and all over the place.
You were dismissive of “disillusioned leftists” which are just as bad as a trump voters. They made a choice to not help a damned thing
They’ll happily make the same choice again too, even as the country burns down around us. The left wont support war crimes no matter what gun you try to hold to their head. And the dem party cant win anything without them. What to do…
Abandon AIPAC funding? nooo, that crazy! cant do that, right?
You supported worse war crimes and pretended to be superior for it. This conversation is over with the stupid non-starter.
what are these “worse war crimes” you pretend exist?
The worst thing I’ve done is reply to your comments.
How do you figure that? When what I criticize is the lack of political action and ambition by the democrats when facing Trump.
As an example Pelosy was a menace for blocking actions against Trump, at his last presidency, there’s a long list of lack of doing anything, even when it’s desperately needed!!
This is not on the left, they have been screaming that more needs to be done, that the democratic party lacks ambition. How the fuck is it their fault?
The problem is that democracy in USA is dysfunctional, and Democrats are absolutely part of that problem.
That has nothing to do with saying they are the same, because obviously democrats were the lesser evil, and obviously everybody should have turned up to vote. But the reason they didn’t, was that democrats didn’t give them a good enough reason to do so, backing an 80 year old relic for most of the campaign.
I actually tried to get people to see why it was important to vote Biden instead of Trump, but people simply didn’t care.
So what do YOU think should have been done differently, because Biden would have lost even worse than Harris. How is it not the fault of democrats that they didn’t manage to get their presidential candidate elected over an evil sociopathic liar like Trump?
And how is it wrong to reflect over it, and point it out?
Democrats are part of the problem, yes. I wrote them a really angry letter, that I’m sure never was read, on the day after election day.
What’s up for dispute here is that I think “leftists” who refused to vote are largely to blame for this specific situation we’re in now. They didn’t care and here we are. You seem to understand those people’s perspectives and put all blame on the party which I find absurd. It’s a common attitude on this platform and it’s an incorrect reading of reality.
“Blame” doesnt matter. And the DNC cant win an election without the left. Its just math.
You’re one of those “no true scotsman” types when it comes to the label “the left” so please go away.
People with your political slant are why the last election was lost.
Imagine how bad they see the democrats to be, when the democratic voters simply failed to show up!
If they think Democrats are no better than republicans, they kind of have a point. Harris had nice ideas about helping people buy a house, but how the fuck does that help the homeless or others that are REALLY struggling, way beyond the ability to buy a house?
If you can buy a house with a little help, you are not struggling to survive. Democrats are not there for the poor. There is very little idealism left in American politics, it’s been squashed by 2 majority parties that monopolize politics.
That’s not a fault of the poor, or the leftists that want real improvements, maybe like the Scandinavian model. AOC has explained this again and again, but democrats still pander to the right, because they are more in favor of wall street than helping the poor.
Some of those people voted for Trump, in part because they are stupid, but also in part to bring the pain to others too.
That’s what you get with a dysfunctional democracy, and PLEASE tell me again how that isn’t also a problem with the democrats???
I stopped reading when you reinforced voters being not responsible for their votes.
That’s a straw man argument, I never claimed any such thing. Not giving a shit, doesn’t mean you are not responsible.
Your logic is flawed and all over the place.
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