Basically the forced shift to the enshittified Windows 11 in october has me eyeing the fence a lot. But all I know about Linux is 1: it’s a cantankerous beast that can smell your fear and lack of computer skills and 2: that’s apparently not true any more? Making the change has slowly become a more real possibility for me, though I’m pretty much a fairly casual PC-user, I don’t do much more than play games. So I wrote down some questions I had about Linux.

Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

And also, what distro might be best for me?

  • Briaaahn@lemm.ee
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    I just made the swap the other day. I figured there would be a huge learning curve but theres really not. I been on the steam deck for a couple years now and I realized all the games I play run on linux. Im using bazzite and its set up for gaming comes with steam and lutris for non steam stuff.

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    I’m a newcomer to Linux (only about a year in), but here’s what I’ve got so far:

    Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

    Mine wasn’t at all. Valve has done a lot of work to make this seamless so that more games can be played on the Steam Deck. Check the Proton DB to see what your gamea look like.

    Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

    I have very little experience with this, but probably. Linux users tend to be tinkerers.

    If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

    Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

    Same answer for both: There’s Wine, and a whole bunch of setup scripts that can get even stuff like Adobe Creative Suite working with it. Worst case scenario, there’s VirtualBox for the one or two apps you might need to run Windows for. But I find that the open source options, while they might have a learning curve, tend to be substantially better than either of those options.

    How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

    More or less, but you can pick and choose what updates you want to install and when. Most distros have a package manager that’ll let you update the kernel, the drivers, the middleware, the desktop environment, all your apps, and even the package manager itself on your schedule, from one interface. You can also just ignore it and never update anything, though I wouldn’t recommend that.

    How does digital security work on Linux?

    Very well. It’s much more locked-down by default, for one thing.

    Is it more vulnerable due to being open source?

    Quite the opposite. Open source projects are well known for being less vulnerable out of the box; Linux in particular is used by huge companies as a lightweight server OS, so it has a lot of highly-paid people committing security fixes back down to the open source project.

    Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

    Antivirus is a bandaid on Windows, provided because the OS was written with certain naive assumptions that let attackers get access they shouldn’t have. On Linux, those assumptions were not made. No application can be installed without your root password, for instance; downloaded files can’t even be executed without specifically making them executable; and access to edit system files is restricted by a very robust permissions system.

    All of that, plus Linux’s much lower market share, also means that no malware authors are really wasting their time trying to write Linux malware. The attack vector just isn’t worth the extra effort.

    So no, there’s no integrated antivirus; but for most users in most situations, it’s not needed at all.

    Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

    Your mileage may vary significantly, but anecdotally it seems like most architectures from AMD and Nvidia have good support.

    Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

    Maybe, but like with Windows, I assume you have to really go out of your way to do so.

    And also, what distro might be best for me?

    I’ve only used Ubuntu and Mint. Mint has so far been the easiest and most user-friendly of the two. It’s also regularly touted as the best for newcomers.

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    I opened the topic while knowing there will be a ton of super enthusiastic and well-constructed answers. I’m not disappointed 🍿

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    After about 30 years of Linux, here’s my take on your questionnaire. Not sure if it’ll add on what many others have said.

    The one thing you have to remember is that Linux is not a replacement for Windows. It’s a completely different operating system that lets you do the same operations in a different way. It can however run some of the same software thanks to a number of very clever hacks. That being said…

    Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

    Significantly, no. Some things won’t run, especially games that require deep anti-cheat hooks in the system. An awful lot of stuff will run fine thanks to the incredible work done by Valve.

    Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

    Short answer: no. It often relies on software tools that won’t run as easily. Sometimes, yes.

    If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

    Sometimes there’s a functional equivalent in the Linux world, or you can get the Windows version to run either in a virtual machine or in a pseudo-emulated environment (Wine or bottles).

    Can Linux run programs that rely on frameworks like .NET or other Windows-specific libraries?

    Yes. they can be written specifically for Linux. Or they can be written for Windows and will work in Linux, sometimes (it’s hard to get the translation layer right).

    How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

    Every distribution manages this. It works by itself and is typically much cleaner than in Windows.

    How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

    The structure of the software in Linux (and the fact that it mostly comes from one source (the distribution) makes for a smaller target than in Windows where it comes from all over the place. Antivirus aren’t used.

    Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

    They’re the same as in Windows (the codebase is the same, the OS “glue” is specific). Other than the occasional bad release, they’re usually OK. Linux is currently transitioning to a new display system, from X11 to Wayland, and nVidia is a bit behind on Wayland adoption. However, all three GPU makers typically work fine whether you use X11 or Wayland.

    Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

    Even voluntarily, that wouldn’t be easy to do.

    And also, what distro might be best for me?

    Honestly, it doesn’t really matter. They all install the same thing in the end. Just pick something mainstream and well documented and not something obscure.

    Note that for X or Y reason, a given distribution may disagree with your hardware. It’s the problem when everything is very specifically designed for Microsoft’s OS, around specs that aren’t fully publicly disclosed. If that happens, just try another.

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    6 days ago

    Start with Linux Mint and use Steam’s Proton or Lutris. I can run just about every game natively or using one of those without having to do too much work to play them.

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    Here are some answers I can give

    1: Depends on which game you play, performance ma be better or worse, cant say without specifics

    2: If modding a game requires copying files from here to there, you will have 0 issues, but if it requires some software to do it, you will have to do some digging

    3: In some cases, you can use something like WINE to run these applications. But I have personally never done it. A better way would be to search for how to do it in Linux, which look difficult at first, but its just different not difficult

    4: That I dont know enough to say, maby WINE can run them

    5: Yes, there is a Linux update button on many so called beginner friendly distributions like Ubuntu and Linux Mint

    6: Lets just rephrase it this way, a vehicle is open source, anyone can unscrew anything, anyone can change brakes, does that make it less safe?

    7: Yes, GPU drivers are very stable these days, there was once a time where it was not true but thats history now

    8: No and Yes, Linux will not try to prevent you from breaking your computer if you want, this sounds weird but there are good reasons why. But you gotta understand, Linux is a layered architecture and most of the hardware related stuff lives on the bottom layer, and you need to go out of your way to modify it and disable safety features to cause hardware damage.

    Personal note:

    1: Anything you can do on a web browser is not an issue, that includes office 365 or Adobe cloud or stuff like that.

    2: If you have iPhone and require full support, you are out of luck, I know some folks were able run iTunes through WINE and get its full functionality, but thats just hack and nobody can tell if that works or if you can get it working now. The only support that comes out of the box is being able to copy media from iPhone to computer, cant remember if you could copy media from your computer to iPhones.

    3: Adobe support is absent. I know some were able to get older version of Adobe products working with WINE but cant say that works anymore. Like I mentioned previously, being able to use stuff over cloud with a browser is non issue.

    4: Libreoffice in Linux is pretty must identical to MS Office. Its just that buttons are in different places and you can save as PDF which will look exactly the same.

    5: There is no reason not to atleast have Windows dualbooted, you can find something like Oprekin’s Windows 10/11 lite with everything removed, though it may be absolutely insecure, Windows cannot support Linux’s filesystem so its fine when you need it. It can fit in about 50GB disk space so no reason not to have it.

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    Will my ability to play games be significantly affected compared to Windows?

    Depends on the game. In general no, unless it has kernel anticheat, which Linux will not allow because that’s a glaring security risk.

    Can I mod games as freely and as easily as I do on Windows?

    Yes.

    If a program has no Linux version, is it unusable, or are there workarounds?

    Most Windows software can be run on Linux using Wine. But there are advantages to using Linux-specific alternatives - they are often lighter and faster.

    How do OS updates work in Linux? Is there a “Linux Update” program like what Windows has?

    Yes, each distribution has its own update tool. They also install and update software (like in Android, where Google Play installs and updates all apps and not just the OS). No need to download exe files from random websites.

    How does digital security work on Linux? Is it more vulnerable due to being open source? Is there integrated antivirus software, or will I have to source that myself?

    Linux is generally much more secure than Windows, because it is open-source. Most internet servers and supercomputers use Linux partly because of its security.

    Are GPU drivers reliable on Linux?

    Nvidia is notoriously bad but getting better. AMD is good.

    Can Linux (in the case of a misconfiguration or serious failure) potentially damage hardware?

    No.

    And also, what distro might be best for me?

    Linux Mint. It is stable, reasonably up to date and does not make confusing changes every update. It also tends to work on most systems.

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    In terms of games and programs, it’s best to look for/ask about the specific ones. Things have improved a ton with Steam/Proton, but just make sure there isn’t a deal breaker in there somewhere. Otherwise, there’s great distros out there that are EZPZ for normal everyday computer tasks (web surfing, file browsing, office shit).

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    In terms of games, modded minecraft runs perfectly for me and so does steam with proton. Theres probably more user friendly distributions that have some sorta GUI to update the OS, but on my machine a shell command is the only way. In terms of security, unless you copy-paste a malicious command into the shell or download malicious software from an untrusted source, you’ll be fine. Package managers are probably the best way to download software. Someone probably offers antivirus for Linux somewhere but I don’t use anything like that 🤷‍♂️ . As for what would be the best distro for you, I’ve never used it but I’ve heard Mint Linux is a good place to start.

  • Norah (pup/it/she)@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Lots of good answers to your other Qs here so I’m gonna focus on your last one. If you lack in-depth computer skills as much as I’m imagining, than I think the best distro for you would be Bazzite.

    Firstly, I’m going to call out the users here suggesting Mint. Mint is only a good beginner distro for people that are already “early adopters” or tech-savvy to switch to Linux for the first time. When I first switched from Windows 10 on my desktop last year, I tried Mint. Keep in mind, I have extensive knowledge of the commandline and headless Debian from several years of running a homelab. I found it completely intolerable how much wasn’t intuitive, how difficult cinnamon was, how much set up was involved in getting graphics drivers working, and gaming going. It wasn’t that I’m incapable, it’s that I don’t want my gaming desktop to require that much tinkering just to play games. Let alone that I can’t imagine how steep that learning curve would be for a casual gamer with minimal tech skills.

    That brings me to Bazzite. I switched back fully to Windows 10 for several months because of how disillusioned I was before learning about it. Bazzite is one of a handful of distros that have taken the SteamOS experience from the Steam Deck and tried to build on/improve it. It uses the KDE desktop environment, which is super similar to Windows 10 in look and feel. It includes everything you need for gaming right out of the box, including graphics drivers already installed, Steam as well, all of the frameworks and compatibility tools you need already configured. It’s immutable too, which means the system directories are locked down so you can’t accidentally break things. There’s a unified system updater that cover everything. The system, your applications, compatibility tools, all of it updated with just one click.

    As well, games just work without needing special configuration. It’s truly the easiest to use distro for people switching from Win10 that just want to play games with their computer, maybe some internet browsing and email alongside that. You also don’t have to worry about stupid codec issues if you wanna watch youtube or streaming sites in the browser.

    Seriously people, stop recommending Mint. All the folks who would be okay with the amount of tinkering it requires have already made the switch. If we want the less tech-savy gaming folks to be able to make the switch, we need to be recommending something that will just work out of the gates for them. Pushing them to distro-hop is just going to push them to Win11. Plus, the more that make that leap, the more likely game devs will have to target WINE, the less games will be borked. It’s already pretty minimal though, especially if it doesn’t use anti-cheat.

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    Windows 11 isn’t enshittified, it’s just shit. You should consider learning what that word actually means rather than just parroting it like everyone else.

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        That comment is neither nice nor unkind. If someone can’t take a relatively neutral comment in stride and requires that I be “nice”…that’s a pretty unfortunate way to live, tbh.

        If you disagree with any of the claims that’s fine, but I think the facts are fairly rock solid. It’s a word whose definition can’t include windows. It’s a word people parrot endlessly in the last year or so since Doctorow got popular, without actually understanding it. If you want to prove me wrong, go for it.

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          Is asking people to be nice an unfortunate way to live? Works well for me. I bear bad news a lot in my daily life and I am aware that perception of written text is in the eye of the beholder so I tend to tone down when bringing written messages.

          As for the use of the word enshittified. That all boils down to your initial perception of Windows. You feel like it has been awful since… well, forever apparently. Many people disagree. It’s a matter of opinion, not facts. Whether I agree or disagree with your opinion doesn’t matter. The person you replied to felt like Windows used to be a decent OS that has turned for the worse to please their business customers. Somehow that’s how the term was coined.

          ‘‘Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves.’’

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    first quesrion: no unless you play rainbiw six or fortnite all games run with wine or proton tou could take a look at garuda gaming edition 2: Yes you can r2modman has a appimage (universal linux app) and forge has a linux client for minecraft 3: you could use wine or always just spin up a windows vm if you need it and it doesnt work with wine 4: yes it can run .NET using the wine compaitibilty layer 5: updates are distro specific for example on debain ud do sudo apt update && upgrade or on arch its sudo pacman -Syu 6: its actuslly more secure with it being open source because anyonr can check for vulrabiltys and since its so unkown theres little malware affecting desktop users most are targeting servers and theres one av i know called clamtk theres also rkhunter that looks for root kits only 7: linux has a weird reltonship with gpu drivers for nvidia theres nvidia open source that offer worse perfomrance but are open source and nvidia properitary that run better but are prob spyware 8: Linux cant really damage hardware 9: for distros Linux Mint is and like windows Pop os is good for gaming or for a arch linux based exooernce but still easy try garuda gaming it comes with everything you need to game.

  • Psychadelligoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I’m too tired to reply to everything but for those who didn’t know the Nexus Mods App is pretty good already and is in its AppImage stage. Any of the games it supports are flawless imo