China’s firewall plays a crucial role in shaping the country’s digital landscape, preventing foreign intervention, and maintaining national security. While often criticized in the West, the firewall provides China with the ability to control information flow, shield its population from foreign influence, and protect domestic media.
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People when talking about EU banning US social media and fostering domestically-based networks: hell yeah 😎😎😎
When China does it: evil commies! Brainwashed! Chinese people are too stupid to see they’re being manipulated!
correct - if they didn’t do this they would’ve left themselves open to western tech companies basically monopolizing digital infrastructure with little recourse for chinese tech firms to stand on their own feet.
much less the fact that the western tech firms are 24 government agencies wearing a layer of VC money
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Westerners: “Let us manipulate you using social media in the name of free speech!”
China: “No.”
Westerners: “😠 authoritarianism!”
But… without autohitarianism it wouldn’t be possible?
Its your decision if its a good or bad thing. It depends on the leader
Every state is authoritarian.
The point is that it’s only “authoritarianism” if the west doesn’t like it.
Thats a total misbelieve and just lack of knowledge.
https:// cia.usa/propaganda/authoritarianism
Say anything positive or neutral about the country of China and you’ll quickly discover that liberals also love to plug their ears and shout “fake news”.
This is actually a really great video! The Chinese social media memes about trump had me laughing. Chinese Netizens are hilarious.
Damm you russian spies controlling social media and influencing the result of our election.
So let’s regulate this shitty space controlled by big corporations? … MY FREEZE PEACH!!!
Finally watched this, it’s very good, highly recommend it.
oh shit 142 comments in 7 hours VISIBLE FROM HEXBEAR
Oh shit this blew up, lol. Haven’t seen the video, but protectionism is necessary if you want to develop your own industry and not have it undermined by a country that has hegemonic control over said industry, so control on the internet is a good thing. Same with not allowing said hostile foreign actors to sow dissent unrestricted.
If it’s cool with everyone here, I’m just going to spend the next eight hours getting extremely mad with people on the Internet over my refusal to watch a 40 minute video essay on YouTube, or read literally anything.
As is tradition.
It’s not only your right, but your patriotic duty
All the tankie propaganda reels are bringing all the brainwashed cccpc bots out in hordes arent they?
china mention = me immediately entering the battlefield
beep boop
most of the comments seem to be from hexbear or lemmygrad and i wonder if anyone in the big instances can see any of it since they’ve defederated/banned both.
No or else it’d be a bigger bloodbath in here
yeah, it’s definately odd not a single mention of tiannamen nor the uiyghurs; where it’s usually it’s an overwhelmingly dominant parade of liberals doubling down on their ignorance as proof of authoritarianism.
Uyghurs have been mentioned, don’t worry lol
i still don’t see it and i wonder if it’s indicative that those anti-tankie block lists the liberal lemmings are passing among each other are working.
You’re not seeing it because the person who posted it deleted their account lmao
Got a Uygers, no Tiannamen
only one?
they must be slacking. lol
They went with Pollution instead cause they don’t get how statistics work.
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Fyi propaganda can be factually correct, calling something propaganda does fuck all to prove it wrong
Nick, sorry to hear about your brain worms, get well soon.
it’s terminal
Many such cases.
Propaganda isn’t always lies.
what part of it is untrue
It’s an .ml post.
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The firewall seemed like a much more egregious affront to information freedom over a decade ago. Since 2016 or so things have changed. Now with ubiquitous online western astroturfing disinformation campaigns, increasingly shit, biased media and in combination with increasingly divergent regulatory regime’s between the EU and the US leading to less than universal access even between those regions - in 2025 the firewall seems a lot more reasonable.
It only seemed that way because we were not as aware of the extent of western information warfare operations. In reality the firewall has always been justified.
No thanks I dont need the government controlling the information i consume.
The US corporate-survellance state already does. If you’re living in New Zealand, according to here, your country’s entire social media infrastructure is US owned and controlled.
This is completely different. Even though there are big US websites we’re still free to travel to any site on the web. Thats not the case in China.
Well yeah the megacorpos are already doing that, unregulated by the government
We totally love them for it. /s
You might not need that but the US has spent the last several years proving conclusively that some people absolutely fucking do need someone controlling the information they consume
The US government already does that. It controls US based social media. If you don’t live in the US you should want your government to control the social media you use because at least that way you can have a say in that control via the (nominally) democratic control you exert over your own government. Either way someone controls it. By not having digital sovereignty your country is just handing the control over your information space to a foreign government which can then use it to shape your opinions and views to their advantage instead of yours.
Okay? So? Still doesn’t justify censorship, no matter what country is doing it. A free and neutral net is crucial, no matter where you’re from.
There is no such thing as a “free and neutral net”. It would be nice if there were but sadly that’s just a fairly tale for children. Someone is always in control.
Yes obviously. If not governments, then Google, Meta, etc. are controlling the narrative. Doesn’t mean we should give up and just let them. China is no less evil than the US, or the big corporations that control us all. Don’t give up and give in to any of them. Resist until the day you die.
A free and neutral net is crucial
If you allow nazis, zionists and other reactionary ideals to roam free, that’s not neutrality, that’s being complicit. It’s siding with the oppressors. The very idea of neutrality is just centrist thinking, that is, a fantasy.
Because of this supposed “neutrality” that you have places like 4chan that are infested with nazi/fascists.
if you’re from new zealand you should beg for a policy like this so new zealand could develop its own privately owned social media, instead of relying on American tech oligarchs. it makes absolutely no sense for someone outside of the US, which has its social media market completely dominated by US tech companies, to complain about this.
Exactly. What the fuck is wrong with everyone in this thread?
Doesn’t matter if China is doing it, doesn’t matter if the US is doing it. Censorship is evil. Full stop.
“the ability to control information flow”
Yay! What a feature! Tell me what I’m allowed to know, O lord.
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How does that make the great firewall a good thing?
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Keep deepthroating that boot.
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Said the one defending the empire, lol
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Well, you’re wrong. Censorship is a tool like any other. If you censor nazis, is that wrong? I don’t think so.
You’re allowed to know that bleach can’t cure covid
