(overly emphasising on the gay part rather than the rescue part)
that was my whole point - how rescue does adding the word gay add to conversation - we might as well add there racial identity, ethiniicity and what not /s. Maybe using “bad light” was not appropriate wording - let me rephrase it better - we are focussing on wrong thing here - instead of focusing on rescue, we are focussing on the fact they are gay - I dont have problem with them being gay - but that is not the very fabric of their being is it. Whenever we try to put labels on people we ignore there lives as a whole and just focus on labels.
let my try to show my point of view from an example - just switching one wword from title
Gay cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
Indian cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
American cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
Alien cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
In any of these situations did the meaning really change. Just some part of identity of rescuers changed. Now from persepective of this community - Uplifiting news, what is the uplifting news - I am presuming - rescue happened. Does identity matter here.
Maybe I am wrong - then correct me - does the the identity matter here?
To me headline highlights the intersectionality and solidarity shown when of one group of historically oppressed people (refugees) is rescued by another historically oppressed group (gay people).
The fact that the rescuers were from a gay cruise doesn’t make their actions inherently more special than if they were from any other kind of cruise, but there’s an importance in having positive media portrayal for LGBTQIA+ folks when the current political climate in many countries is turning more towards intolerance and oppression of queer people again.
Also from perspective who writes stuff (my domain is scientific articles, so may not directly apply) - Your title is the hook for article - and it is the photo of your product which goes in the catalog, and since catalogs have limited space - you can only put a finite amount of details in it, ideally the most enticing one. If you put “Gay” as the very first word in the title, this story (from the perspective of person just reading the title) would see this as the main element in story. This is again putting a label on them and their identity.
If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that putting emphasis on the “Gay” description is reductive?
I don’t necessarily disagree, but headlines need to be short, capture attention and accurately summarize the content of the article. I think this headline succeeds in all these aspects.
Also it’s worth noting that this cruise was chartered by a company that advertises itself as specialising in gay & LGBTQ+ holiday packages. I doubt anyone taking part in this cruise would object to it being described as gay.
Why would the fact that it’s gay put a bad light on it?
that was my whole point - how rescue does adding the word gay add to conversation - we might as well add there racial identity, ethiniicity and what not /s. Maybe using “bad light” was not appropriate wording - let me rephrase it better - we are focussing on wrong thing here - instead of focusing on rescue, we are focussing on the fact they are gay - I dont have problem with them being gay - but that is not the very fabric of their being is it. Whenever we try to put labels on people we ignore there lives as a whole and just focus on labels.
let my try to show my point of view from an example - just switching one wword from title
Gay cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
Indian cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
American cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
Alien cruise rescues refugees adrift in Gulf of Mexico
In any of these situations did the meaning really change. Just some part of identity of rescuers changed. Now from persepective of this community - Uplifiting news, what is the uplifting news - I am presuming - rescue happened. Does identity matter here.
Maybe I am wrong - then correct me - does the the identity matter here?
Not even, since it was the ship’s crew doing the rescue, not the passengers.
To me headline highlights the intersectionality and solidarity shown when of one group of historically oppressed people (refugees) is rescued by another historically oppressed group (gay people).
The fact that the rescuers were from a gay cruise doesn’t make their actions inherently more special than if they were from any other kind of cruise, but there’s an importance in having positive media portrayal for LGBTQIA+ folks when the current political climate in many countries is turning more towards intolerance and oppression of queer people again.
Of course.
But the passengers didn’t have any involvement (or decision making) in the rescue. That was entirely the ship’s crew.
That’s a fair point.
I’m still going to celebrate the gays.
Of course, that was never in question.
Also from perspective who writes stuff (my domain is scientific articles, so may not directly apply) - Your title is the hook for article - and it is the photo of your product which goes in the catalog, and since catalogs have limited space - you can only put a finite amount of details in it, ideally the most enticing one. If you put “Gay” as the very first word in the title, this story (from the perspective of person just reading the title) would see this as the main element in story. This is again putting a label on them and their identity.
If I understand you correctly, you’re saying that putting emphasis on the “Gay” description is reductive?
I don’t necessarily disagree, but headlines need to be short, capture attention and accurately summarize the content of the article. I think this headline succeeds in all these aspects.
Also it’s worth noting that this cruise was chartered by a company that advertises itself as specialising in gay & LGBTQ+ holiday packages. I doubt anyone taking part in this cruise would object to it being described as gay.