If they did Germans would be absolutely disgusted with a new genocide happening with German support. Hell the AfD neo-Nazis are the most popular party in Germany these days.
Believe me, many of us are disgusted. Not only the AfD has grown, the leftist party DIE LINKE has almost tripled their poll results over the last year. The problem is that the left half of the spectrum (SPD, Grüne and LINKE) still can’t agree which flavor of “left” is the correct one so they rather blame each other than form a coalition which leaves the CDU/CSU as the strongest power that can just dictate what happens and the SPD has to go along with it out of fear that otherwise the CDU will eventually work with the AfD.
Die Linke is the only slight anti genocide party and they have like 10% of the votes. The Greens are literally saying it’s OK for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians. Germany is fully doomed and the only people unable to see it are Germans.
The Greens are literally saying it’s OK for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians.
Where? When? You can’t just claim that without providing a source and expect us to believe it.
While they do state on their website that Israel has a right to defend itself and Hamas should release all remaining hostages, they immediately follow it up with this (translated by me to the best of my ability):
Israel’s military operation must happen under the conditions of international humanitarian law. The new military offensive of Israel’s government in Gaza will further worsen the dramatic humanitarian conditions for civilians in Gaza. The suffering of the people of Gaza is immeasurable. We expect the federal government to increase their efforts to advocate for Israel’s government to obey international humanitarian law, for a ceasefire and for an immediate end of the blockade of humanitarian aid. The people of Gaza need access to vital help right now. Every day costs more human lives. For this, the federal government should strengthen the principles of the G7 - no displacement, no occupation, no decrease in territory, no decision about the future of Gaza without the Palestinian people.
How is that “OK for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians”?
Edit: Rephrased the initial “They don’t” to a question about the source; translated a bit more of the page.
Germany’s Foreign Minister, Annalena Baerbock, addressed parliament yesterday and justified Israel’s targeting of civilians in Gaza. ‘Self-defence means not only attacking terrorists but destroying them. When Hamas terrorists hide behind people, behind schools… civilian places lose their protected status because terrorists abuse it.’
This, however, is not true, according to human rights lawyer, Craig Mokhiber. The former senior UN human rights official told MEMO claims that Israel has a right to ‘self-defence’ in Gaza don’t have a standing in international law.
And where does that say that it’s okay to kill civilians? She very clearly says that civilian places, not people can, not must, lose their protected status if Hamas, not the civilian population, use them to hide weapons or active combatants. This is in accordance with the Geneva Conventions:
The protection to which fixed establishments and mobile medical units of the Medical Service are entitled shall not cease unless they are used to commit, outside their humanitarian duties, acts harmful to the enemy. Protection may, however, cease only after a due warning has been given, naming, in all appropriate cases, a reasonable time limit and after such warning has remained unheeded.
How about you stop assuming things that I never said or meant? I fully agree that Israel has no rights to set even one foot into Gaza, that every dead civilian is one too many and that Benjamin Netanyahu needs to be dragged before the ICC as soon as possible.
But it’s still important to look at facts about what some party or the other said and not your twisted interpretation based on what you want to believe the world to be. Calling everyone who even slightly deviates from your opinion Zionist and a Nazi just strengthens the actual Nazis in the AfD, the right wing of the CDU/CSU, the Republicans in the USA and so on. This is exactly what I meant by ‘left half of the spectrum (SPD, Grüne and LINKE) still can’t agree which flavor of “left” is the correct one’. If we want to prevail against the flood of right-wing hatemongers who twist the narrative to their advantage, we must stick together and we must stick to the facts. Otherwise, we are, as you have phrased it, doomed.
I never said, that what she said is factually correct. I said that what you said is not what she said and that you are interpreting things that are not in the original video you linked, let alone in the full-length unedited version.
Also, quoting someone to illustrate what they actually said does in no way mean that one agrees. What I quoted was a text straight from the Greens website as well as part of the Geneva Conventions. I clearly marked both as such and I included them to illustrate someone else’s opinion, not my own.
Believe me, many of us are disgusted. Not only the AfD has grown, the leftist party DIE LINKE has almost tripled their poll results over the last year. The problem is that the left half of the spectrum (SPD, Grüne and LINKE) still can’t agree which flavor of “left” is the correct one so they rather blame each other than form a coalition which leaves the CDU/CSU as the strongest power that can just dictate what happens and the SPD has to go along with it out of fear that otherwise the CDU will eventually work with the AfD.
Die Linke is the only slight anti genocide party and they have like 10% of the votes. The Greens are literally saying it’s OK for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians. Germany is fully doomed and the only people unable to see it are Germans.
Where? When? You can’t just claim that without providing a source and expect us to believe it.
While they do state on their website that Israel has a right to defend itself and Hamas should release all remaining hostages, they immediately follow it up with this (translated by me to the best of my ability):
How is that “OK for Israel to kill Palestinian civilians”?
Edit: Rephrased the initial “They don’t” to a question about the source; translated a bit more of the page.
And where does that say that it’s okay to kill civilians? She very clearly says that civilian places, not people can, not must, lose their protected status if Hamas, not the civilian population, use them to hide weapons or active combatants. This is in accordance with the Geneva Conventions:
(GC (I), Article 21, emphasis mine)
Stop with the Zionist propaganda. You are literally doing the Nazi thing. “Hitler defended himself into Poland”.
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How about you stop assuming things that I never said or meant? I fully agree that Israel has no rights to set even one foot into Gaza, that every dead civilian is one too many and that Benjamin Netanyahu needs to be dragged before the ICC as soon as possible.
But it’s still important to look at facts about what some party or the other said and not your twisted interpretation based on what you want to believe the world to be. Calling everyone who even slightly deviates from your opinion Zionist and a Nazi just strengthens the actual Nazis in the AfD, the right wing of the CDU/CSU, the Republicans in the USA and so on. This is exactly what I meant by ‘left half of the spectrum (SPD, Grüne and LINKE) still can’t agree which flavor of “left” is the correct one’. If we want to prevail against the flood of right-wing hatemongers who twist the narrative to their advantage, we must stick together and we must stick to the facts. Otherwise, we are, as you have phrased it, doomed.
What she is saying is not facts it is Zionist propaganda contradicting international law.
Adolf Hitler said he was defending himself into Poland. Was he? Is anyone repeating what he is saying “repeating the law”?
I never said, that what she said is factually correct. I said that what you said is not what she said and that you are interpreting things that are not in the original video you linked, let alone in the full-length unedited version.
Also, quoting someone to illustrate what they actually said does in no way mean that one agrees. What I quoted was a text straight from the Greens website as well as part of the Geneva Conventions. I clearly marked both as such and I included them to illustrate someone else’s opinion, not my own.