(not my OC nor my OP, just helping spread the message around:-)

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    8 days ago

    Fucking hope police with their unscientific view that honest assessments and factual information are less important than optimism.

    The OP’s tweet is wrong.

    This is undeniable.

    There are certain limits past which feedback loops kick in and after which our actions won’t matter.

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      7 days ago

      I mean thats not really true even if the most catastrophic of feedback loops was actively happening if we invented something for effective carbon capture and storage or did something more drastic like launch enough nukes to start a nuclear winter we could still do something.

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        5 days ago

        Carbon capture and nuclear winter won’t do a goddamn thing if the clathrate gun goes boom, and it is looking like it has:

        https://english.elpais.com/climate/2025-02-12/massive-methane-leaks-detected-in-antarctica-posing-potential-risks-for-global-warming.html

        And that single release, equivalent to two years of human output, is the tip of the spear.

        Hope police want to argue that if we are calm about things and don’t point out the dire situation we’re in, we’ll somehow manage.

        It’s the same argument as telling a passenger in a car driving towards a cliff at 50 mph, close enough that seconds matter, to not yell ‘CLIFF! BRAKE!’ Because it would demoralize the driver, and should instead calmly inform the driver that we might have some problems if they don’t stop applying pressure to the gas.

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          5 days ago

          I think you misunstand my point. I’m saying that doing nothing is never the only option. There are a lot of people saying that the world is fucked so we might as well do nothing. my only point is that we should at least try doing something.

          It’s more like me saying to the driver you should use the ebrake after it becomes too late to use the normal breaks and other people saying that since the normal breaks won’t work we might as well do nothing and accept flying off the cliff full force.

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            5 days ago

            Except that this is the argument that hope police give to people screaming to pull the brake. Not just to people black pilled.