Except that this is the argument that hope police give to people screaming to pull the brake. Not just to people black pilled.

Carbon capture and nuclear winter won’t do a goddamn thing if the clathrate gun goes boom, and it is looking like it has:

https://english.elpais.com/climate/2025-02-12/massive-methane-leaks-detected-in-antarctica-posing-potential-risks-for-global-warming.html

And that single release, equivalent to two years of human output, is the tip of the spear.

Hope police want to argue that if we are calm about things and don’t point out the dire situation we’re in, we’ll somehow manage.

It’s the same argument as telling a passenger in a car driving towards a cliff at 50 mph, close enough that seconds matter, to not yell ‘CLIFF! BRAKE!’ Because it would demoralize the driver, and should instead calmly inform the driver that we might have some problems if they don’t stop applying pressure to the gas.

Fucking hope police with their unscientific view that honest assessments and factual information are less important than optimism.

The OP’s tweet is wrong.

This is undeniable.

There are certain limits past which feedback loops kick in and after which our actions won’t matter.

God I hate the stupidity of blue MAGA.

I did vote. You don’t know me.

Your stupidity, and the reason you can justifiably be called blue MAGA, is that you don’t understand what the primary responsibility of the politician is, and instead blame the political parties failures on the voters. Because the Democratic Party can never fail. They can only be failed, right?

There is one group that can and should be blamed for identifying, and then happily handing power over to fascists. Hint: it isn’t the voters.

Blaming the voters is some Stockholm syndrome level bullshit to protect the campaign consultants and other unelected assholes that got rich off of this loss. That is who you are protecting.

This ‘logic’ (and metaphors are not logic) is why help isn’t coming.

I’m upset that you want to equate ~1000 to ~150000. And it is extremely stupid to think that it won’t be noticed that you think pointing out the disparity between those numbers is the same thing as defending Hamas. Why is that? You still didn’t answer that. Almost like you’re afraid to address that. At least have the courage of your beliefs.

By the standard of ‘civilians have been killed’ every country ever involved in a war is equally evil, which is occipitally not true.

Good job responding to something I didn’t say to try and discredit what I did.

Don’t think that goes unnoticed.

I’m not excusing Hamas. The fact that you read what I did says that you are either responding in bad faith, didn’t read my response very carefully, or are stupid. I’ll go with the middle one to be generous.

I don’t excuse Hamas. I don’t control Hamas, and much more importantly, I don’t pay for the weapons that Hamas use.

I pay, or rather my country pays, for the weapons that Israel uses to bomb apartment building, schools, and hospitals.

Hamas has killed somewhere between 1000-2000 civilians in this conflict, and that is being generous because we know that a large number of causalities were from Israel enacting the Hannibal directive and intentionally killing their own to keep them from being made prisoners (If Israel gets to grab 11,400 West Bank civilians without trial or due process and call them prisoners, then Hamas gets to do the same). Furthermore, if we count anyone who was in the IDF or the IDF’s military reserves as active military, then the number of civilians goes WAAAAY down. Remember that the IDF considers the trashmen, police, and hospital administrators as active combatants with Hamas affiliation. So, once again, if that is the standard that Israel is setting then it applies to all parties, including Israelis.

Israel, by all best estimates, has killed somewhere between 100,000-200,000 civilians. That is between 5% - 10% of the ENTIRE POPULATION OF GAZA. In all honesty, the number is probably higher.

That is completely ignoring the systemized rape and torture camps that Israel has set up, and the Israeli media discovered. Also, something that there is no evidence that Hamas has set up.

Acting like those two numbers are equivalent, or pointing out that Israel is quantitatively a minimum of 2 orders of magnitude worse, or that the two sides are the same is either stupidity, or evil. Take your pick.

None of this is justifying Hamas. It is pointing out how much more fantastically, cartoonishly fucking evil the Israeli government is.

You should ask yourself why you view the above as justifying Hamas. You might discover something.

They also don’t have systemized rape and torture camps paid for with your taxes.

By any quantitative value system, Hamas commits less evil than the state of Israel

Comparing them is as useful as comparing the relative brightness between the sun and a lightbulb. The two sides are not comparable. One is committing genocide. Trying to gloss over that fact is propaganda trying to cover up the fact that we’re paying for the weapons doing the killing.

Who has killed more civilians?

By multiple orders of magnitude?

This is like “Man, I don’t like the sun and light bulbs, they’re both so bright.”