I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    17 days ago

    The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

    Give them something to vote for. You can write articles of many paragraphs to analyze the course of the election, but in the end it boils down to this: The DNC pissed off too many of their voters and offered nothing in return.

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      Exactly this! You can’t just “lesser of two evils” your way through life as you slide towards hell. “Lesser of two evils” isn’t a choice, it’s a hostage situation.

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        16 days ago

        Choosing the bigger evil ain’t the way out of it though. Unless you are an accelerationist that believes things have to get worse before it can get better.

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          You can’t get out of a hostage situation by making out with either of the two bank robbers.

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            16 days ago

            no one is making out, but you if it’s life or death you would listen to their demands until help arrives/opportunities arise.

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              16 days ago

              This ‘logic’ (and metaphors are not logic) is why help isn’t coming.

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                then are people actually punching the robbers themselves?

                The reality right now is the bigger robbers are now taking things even more brazenly.

                By not voting, you are telling both robbers “both of you are free to do whatever you want”

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                  14 days ago

                  God I hate the stupidity of blue MAGA.

                  I did vote. You don’t know me.

                  Your stupidity, and the reason you can justifiably be called blue MAGA, is that you don’t understand what the primary responsibility of the politician is, and instead blame the political parties failures on the voters. Because the Democratic Party can never fail. They can only be failed, right?

                  There is one group that can and should be blamed for identifying, and then happily handing power over to fascists. Hint: it isn’t the voters.

                  Blaming the voters is some Stockholm syndrome level bullshit to protect the campaign consultants and other unelected assholes that got rich off of this loss. That is who you are protecting.

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        I had some vote blue no matter who nitwit yelling at me the other day about this. i asked them what are we supposed to do when 2028 is Mitt Romney (D) vs Trump ®. They said you vote Romney.

        People who voter shame others when both parties have crossed their personal morals are the reason the Democats don’t ever run on anything substative. They have forgotten they have to earn votes. They’re not owed.

        And they have forgotten that when they lose, real people suffer deeply for it. The democrats sin of apathy is often worse than the republican sin of cruelty. At least the republicans are honest about how they want to screw over the country.

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    Hey look! The liberals are still blaming the left! What compromises were you doing in order to win the leftists votes btw? Maybe that is the question you should ask yourself.

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      15 days ago

      Or maybe the Gaza detractors should have considered cause and effect. Or listened when Trump outright said what he’d do.

      The question is specifically about people who refused to support Harris because of Gaza. Since Trump is so far objectively worse than Harris, seems pretty reasonable to wonder if any of them changed their minds now, even if it is too late.