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Cake day: July 2nd, 2023

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  • 230 is important for online free speech, and just like free speech is used in real life, such as protesting against racism, it also protects those protesting for racism. It sucks in some cases, but people of all perspectives have found this a worthwhile compromise for 30 years.

    With 230, we protect our online places of assembly. Without it, our right to gather online is greatly endangered.

    Say you record police committing abuse. You want to share it online so people can learn about it and spread the word. Host takes it down to avoid being accused of threatening the officer, liable, inciting violence, etc. If the host doesn’t take it down, now you are both open to civil or criminal penalties if they so choose to go after you. If it’s legal or not, do you have the means and will to fight them in court?

    Yeah, some Nazis get to dog whistle and push misinformation, but 230 also protects you and hosts that let you tell them off and that they aren’t wanted. Lose 230, and now you could be the one in trouble or getting your favorite site shut down.




  • Techdirt

    This week, Durbin will join U.S. Senators Lindsey Graham (R-SC), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Josh Hawley (R-MO), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), and Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) to introduce a bill that would sunset Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act in two years. Section 230—and the legal immunity it provides to Big Tech—has been on the books since 1996—long before social media became a part of our daily lives. To the extent this protection was ever needed, its usefulness has long since passed.

    Here’s a less biased source from the Judiciary Committee.

    Debate on 230 has been going on for years. The Left wants it gone so they can hold people responsible for crimes like CSAM and revenge porn and other things like spreading hate speech.

    As for why others may want it gone, here is a quote from last year from Lindsey Graham:

    ABC

    “However, the real prize will be to make sure social media companies no longer enjoy absolute legal immunity under Section 230," Graham said. "I am committed now more than ever to continue to advance my legislative efforts to ensure that those harmed by social media outlets have the ability to seek justice in American courtrooms. Without repealing Section 230, nothing major will change.”

    For the “harm”, think if the recent Supreme Court cases where the plaintiffs’ harm turned out to be fake but the case was still found in their favor to protect their ”right" to discriminate.

    All those complaints about “right wing opinions being suppressed”, consider your site illegal.

    Organize a general strike, illegal.

    Make a “threat” against a politician or CEO, illegal.

    Site owners in addition to the person “breaking the law” are now liable, in what I am sure would be uneven enforcement.

    Check out the History section of the Section 230 wiki entry to see things that have been tried in the past and imagine those protections gone.

    Cutting your ability to receive credit card payments if something against the rules occurs in your site, shielding you from liability if someone uploads their manifesto and commits a crime, someone catfishes a minor in your site, and much more would change.




  • I didn’t mean to disparage our prehistoric relatives. I like that we’re learning they were much more capable than they’ve gotten credit for. I remember hearing recently that the guy who found the Neanderthals only determination that they were dumb is because he felt they looked dumb and no actual evidence.

    Even most of the modern remote people seem to want to have some aspects of the modern though. People travel to civilization for medicine or tools, etc. The Amish here have no issues riding in other people’s cars or using modern tech for them. Their lives seem other kinds of unhealthy as well.

    All we can do is try harder for each other and our planet. The dark side of our global consciousness seems to be running the show right now, so more burden is on us as individuals, so I hope we make the most of it.


  • Basically, just everything humans have done for our entire history is to put ourselves into smaller, but more efficient spaces. We’ve gained a multiple of advantages by it, though it’s not like there have been no negative effects from it, but I didn’t know anyone who would trade modern life for being a caveman again, or even one if someone from a hundred years ago.

    They simply need their habitats *not* to be messed with, critically.

    And this is why I support the zoos and sanctuaries-we aren’t ever going to get the toothpaste back in the tube with the environment. Mankind could get better at what we do, but we’re not realistically going back to natural living. The great majority of the rescue animals are there because of people related injuries they’d have not have gotten without the way we live.

    It’s treating the symptom and not the problem, but we don’t seem prepared to take the steps we need to start looking at the problem.