Summary
Luigi Mangione, charged with the December 2024 murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, released his first public statement through a new website launched by his defense team.
He expressed gratitude for widespread support and acknowledged the letters he has received. The website provides case updates and a fundraiser, which has raised over $400,000.
Mangione has gained a following among those frustrated with the U.S. healthcare system. A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.
His next court date is Feb. 21.
A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.
Crazy how we can see numbers like this and then see other articles saying only “dark corners of the internet” support Luigi.
Way lower than I thought tbh
That’s greater than the percentage of Americans who voted for Trump in the 2024 election.
Yes but a more direct comparison would be to voters under 30. Around 46% of 18-29 yr. olds supported Trump.
IDK if it’s the case here, but a poll that goes 40% yes 10% no 50% no answer usually gets reported as “40% yes” without context if they want to insinuate the no is in majority.
It’s the same as when Trump’s Greenland poll got reported as “80% no” without mentioning the 12% “no answer” and the 8% yes part.
to be clear, voters under 30 is what like 40% of all the voting public? So we’re talking like less than 10% of the voting populous, probably at most.
Did you just multiply 40% and 41% in your head and decide the answer was less than 10%?
Sorry, I know this is barely relevant, but the implied calculus there shook me a bit.
im lazy but statistics is weird like that, you would be taking 40% of 100, and then taking 40% (i think i just used the wrong number lmao) of that block, so like 8 ish was my quick estimate, i was off by about a factor of 2, but that’s still pretty good for schizo statistics that i have no idea the validity of.
My good ser, statistics are not weird like that you’re overcomplicating it in your head. It is .40 times .40, or in other words, 4*4 then move the decimel two spaces over.
yeah and i just didnt do that, idk what you want from me lmao
Lmao
The statement reads, “I am overwhelmed by—and grateful for—everyone who has written me to share their stories and express their support. Powerfully, this support has transcended political, racial, and even class divisions, as mail has flooded MDC from across the country, and around the globe. While it is impossible for me to reply to most letters, please know that I read every one that I receive. Thank you again to everyone who took the time to write. I look forward to hearing more in the future.”
If they lock him away he’ll be treated like a king and have fans inside.
No war but the class war, we need more upstanding people of good character and sound morals willing to take a stance for their fellow citizen like Luigi Mangione, a real modern day patriot.
People can’t just go around killing loved ones…
Except CEOs
Still dont get it why he is still charged over somthg he obviously didnt do. Is justice sociale bad in the US, why people dont react. Like O.J. Simpson case but in reverse, everybody knows Luigi is not guilty…
These images could be false leads just as much as Luigi could be a false arrest. People assume these pictures are “the guy” just because they were presented first.
So he just happened to have a gun on him in Pennsylvania that coincidentally matched the ballistic evidence in Manhattan?
You talk like the police never planted evidence before.
So the Altoona Pennsylvania police who made the arrest just happened to plant the evidence for the NYPD? Lol
You cant be rational in an irrational discussion. It never goes well- and usually ends in pitchfork-related injuries.
Be safe. These people aren’t using nuance or logic at all.
It’s sad how fucked up they are.
What I want to know is - where is Luigi’s workshop?
That kind of 3D printed gun isn’t just something you can print off at the library and start blasting. Even for a skilled 3D printing expert with a workshop full of plastic and metal working tools, you’re looking at months of prototyping, printing, fitting, testing out prototypes at a gun range, etc. It is possible for skilled crafters to build an untraceable gun from a 3D printed frame and pieces ordered off the net. But it’s nothing like just hitting “print” and having a gun.
This is what really gets me. Luigi was apparently living as a drifter for the last year or so. His family had been trying to get in touch with him. A hostel is not the place where you’re going to be able to make a 3D printed gun. You need a workshop, and one that you can operate in with a high degree of privacy for an extended period of time.
So, again, where is Luigi’s workshop? 3D printed guns don’t just materialized from nowhere. If Luigi made the gun, he must have a workshop. Unless the police can show where that workshop is, I’m going to assume the gun was planted on him.
Where is Luigi’s workshop?
Uh, maybe he bought it?
Ok. Then you just transfer the chain back one level. Who did he buy it from? Think about the logistics of buying one of those. Imagine you wanted to buy a ghost gun. How would you actually go about doing that? Yes, organized crime rings and gangs may make these things, but they don’t just sell them to any random kid who walks up wanting to buy one. They’ll obtain them for their own trusted members. But if a random white kid shows up looking to buy a gun, the thought of most people would be that this guy is planning a school shooting. And no gang wants that type of heat.
It’s really not this deep. A white privileged kid murdered someone in a pathetic martyr operation and he’s going to prison for decades.
Yes? Why would that be surprising
Because it wasn’t their case and they have no connection to it.
What cop wouldn’t want to jump on the opportunity to be the one to catch the guy who did a high profile murder?
I guess the one who forgets about the other evidence in New York.
Let me see the footage of the arrest. Dept desperate to “get their perpetrator” often do desperate things, can’t be having the ruling class be murdered and nobody being punished for it now can we?
The Altoona PA police department made the arrest.
He has not once said he didn’t do it has he? I think this whole conspiracy theory like most is silly.
Yeah he did it, that’s why he’s a hero.
Bruh you never considered he wanted to make himself look like the suspect, the pics of the suspect were all over the news before he got arrested. He had plenty of time to take similar (not exactly the same) outfits, a gun and write a manifesto…
We are talking about facts, what are his motivation is not important.
He is not a hero, he is either a deranged man wanting to get fame or a stupid chap that wanted to make fun of the police. And do you want to know how i know that? Cause there is a factual proof in the actual recording of the suspect comitting the crime… And its obviously not him… And btw he cant speak to the press, you dont know if he will plead guilty or not…
This is some flat-earther level shit right here.
Then prove your point, shoudnt be too difficult to explain how he grew a mono eyebrow and got taller overnight, if this is flat earther level…
Being the devil’s advocate here, but he could have discarded the grey bag and grabbed a black bag with more normal stuff. This image doesn’t quite support the statement. There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution in America.
incorrect it is on the defense
The burden of proof is on the prosecutor for criminal cases, and the defendant is presumed innocent. If the claimant fails to discharge the burden of proof to prove their case, the claim will be dismissed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)
even wikipedia has it wrong
in the United States it is on the defense to pay for and to provide evidence because the prosecutor makes up anything they want along with whatever the jackboots in the case states happens with the judge going along with it in complicity and the defendant is presumed guilty throughout the entire process and even if the defendant proves their innocence the claim may not be dismissed
Lol …
I’ve never seen someone post a source showing they’re wrong…
Then saying “even that source is wrong, and I’m still right”.
Like, did you search for anything that agrees with you and then just give up but thought people would just up ote a source?
Haven’t argued with many MAGAts have you? I had an anti-vaxxer do that numerous times because he couldn’t understand math. That precluded him from understanding that his source didn’t support his argument, but he was still posting sources saying he was wrong.
Haven’t argued with many MAGAts have you?
Why would I?
They want an argument, they want to be “challenged” and to “fight the good fight”.
If rational people argue with them, it raises their group cohesion and they all circlejerk about it later.
If rational people do the rational thing and do t engage with them they still need those arguments. So instead of circle jerking with each other, they have to argue with each other. Which fractures their group.
Please be a rational person and stop being the punching bag of the right.
You’ll never change their minds with facts and logic. All you’re doing is reinforcing their beliefs
You’ll never change their minds with facts and logic. All you’re doing is reinforcing their beliefs
For the MAGAt I referenced above, I’m well aware of that. When I argue with them, it’s not to convince them. It’s to make sure there are facts rebutting their crazy right alongside that crazy. The craziest thing is that there are true undecideds. Those are the people that might be swayed by the crazy bullshit. My hope is that my information is a solid counter to that crazy.
Nah.
That’s not how this shit works homie.
Luigi doesn’t have to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove he’s guilty beyond reasonable doubt…
Like, you’re literally completey opposite of reality with your statement. So in a way you couldn’t be more wrong
For those who read the summary rather than the article, here is the website that Luigi’s defense team created: www.luigimangioneinfo.com
I wonder what the options were. I have really complicated feelings about this, ones I could not possibly boil down to simply acceptable or unacceptable. All I can say is that I do not feel bad about the CEO, and I think Mangione is overcharged because the powerful want to make an example of him, a warning to anyone else considering the same.
At the same time, there is a cost to murdering someone. And sometimes, you are okay paying it. Maybe you feel justified, maybe you do not. Maybe a lot of people think you are. But there is still a cost. The lesson to the powerful is simple: never make taking your life worth the price.
I agree somewhat, that ‘an eye for an eye’ is just awful. Violence begets violence. However, as the CEO was single-handedly responsible for the deaths of a whole bunch of people, the only way to stop him from doing more harm was to rid the world of him. There’s a line, and he crossed it. Society, and our justice system, would never have a trial for him, and would never sentence him for his crimes. Luigi was the one to force him to face judgement for his crimes against humanity, and as such I fully believe he should be set free as a result.
It’s kinda like Trump and Elon in my eyes. These two have done immeasurable harm and our justice system will never hold them accountable. To allow them to live is to allow them to continue perpetuating their crimes. Now, I’m not saying by any means that I would be the one to ‘do the deed’ as it were, but I sure as hell would look the other way if someone else did.
My thoughts: Completely and utterly acceptable without hesitation and the only nuance here is that it’s a shame it didn’t become a trend. Not that I’d condone violence. I clearly don’t, I condemn the violence these rich fucks inflict upon society
If we had a justice system (one that actually uh, delivered justice), then letting the courts deal with the CEO(s) would be the correct thing to do. We absolutely don’t have such honorable courts and have little other recourse except this.
I wonder what the options were
Shaggy defense:
It wasn’t me
It most likely was him. And the prosecution likely has solid evidence
It’s just they likely didn’t get that evidence thru legal means so it won’t be admissible.
Like, at first they said a fast food worker recognized him, then she said she didn’t. She said someone walked up to her. Told her it looked like the shooter that has a big reward, and left
That 100% smells like law enforcement needing a legal way to say he was found when they 100% knew it was him and where he was.
So you attack the evidence they can share with a jury. Which isn’t great.
You attack all the shitty things the cops did, like tazering him till he pissed his pants and then releasing a cell phone pic to taint the jury pool.
His family is loaded as fuck, they’re gonna be able to afford good lawyers, it’s very likely he’s not found guilty
