• snooggums@lemmy.world
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      3 days ago

      There are multiple ways to get to the loneliness stage. The meme identifies one way that is self inflicted which starts with misogyny and spirals from there.

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        20 hours ago

        The problem is the format of the meme implies that the last panel is invalid, and that the conclusion “there is a male loneliness epidemic” is something only women hating clowns believe.

        I guarantee if the last panel was stated like “why won’t women date me” or “I’m lonely” or even “I’m only single because of the male loneliness epidemic” then there wouldn’t be nearly as much backlash in the comments

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          14 hours ago

          The conclusion is that the person is causing their own loneliness by steps 1-3, but is blaming the epidemic (which is actually caused by lack of community and other non-asshole based causes).

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            Well then this is a poor choice of meme template, which is probably why this post is turning out to be so divisive. This meme format is used to mock a series of increasingly ridiculous statements/beliefs/actions. Here, the final and therefore most ridiculous statement is simply “there is a male loneliness epidemic”. If the intention was not to mock this statement, and supposed to mock people who blame the epidemic for their problems, there are many ways it could have been worded to be clear about that, but currently it reads to me (and clearly many people) as direct mockery of male loneliness.

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      2 days ago

      Very true. But when it comes to loneliness, I’ve heard far more about “the male loneliness epidemic.”

      The male loneliness epidemic is often cited to me and used to silence women/NB folks when we try to discuss our safety and support groups. It is supposedly women’s (and other not-men’s fault) that men are lonely.

      I just searched it up and apparently NPR has something about it now. https://www.npr.org/2025/02/17/1263527043/its-been-a-minute-male-loneliness-epidemic-real

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        2 days ago

        Thanks for the link, interesting read( I read the transcript). A section here:

        VOLPE: Yeah. Yeah. Like Harris said, it’s an easy solution. And you know, speaking of, like, some of these people, like Andrew Tate, like, their messages of, like, you know, you need to have women around you only to dominate them. And, like, those sort of messages, I think, are very appealing for men who feel like their place in the world is being threatened. And so it’s very easy to say, like, oh, yeah, like, maybe they just need a girlfriend or a friend and, like, they’ll be better.

        And I think that maps neatly onto the way that we socialize boys and men, too, to sort of value that one romantic relationship, and, like, that is the thing…

        This might be one of the reasons. But it is interesting that the survey says it is only 1% less of women than men feeling lonely. Would be interesting to know the country too. Not all societies are the same, and in some friendships between men are similar in connection like between 2 women.