The issue isnt that we come out during elections, it’s that liberals only start paying attention during election season. How’s that incrementalism working out for you? Your party has accepted a rightward shift for 30 years without question
Marxists agitate against democrats and republicans year-round, every year. You may tune in more around election season, but that does not mean the Marxists are doing nothing. Rather, Marxists understand that organizing is far more effective than voting under capitalism, and organizing has no such time constraints.
Accelerationism isn’t making conditions worse. Accelerationism is the belief that we should support the most competent capitalists to accelerate the concentration of capital, and thus the demise of capital. This means supporting the democrats, not republicans. I don’t think anyone here is an accelerationist, but if anyone had credible claim to be one, it would be the people advocating to support the DNC.
Instead, Marxists support organizing for revolution. This happens outside of the electoral system, at the grassroots level, and does not require timelines. Creating an organization that can educate the working classes on revolutionary struggle, that can struggle alongside workers at every major battlefront, and guide the working classes in a unified direction is the most pressing task for political activists.
I don’t support the Republicans or Democrats, I support the working classes organizing their own political party and movement for revolution. I never once said I support the Republican party, it isn’t a binary choice no matter how much you seem to want it to be. I choose neither.
The fact is, the Democrats are more effective imperialists, and therefore they aid more effectively in accelerating the concentration of capital, and therefore crisis. This is the accelerationist position, which I disagree with. We cannot wait for this process, we must actively organize to overthrow the system rather than try to expedite its collapse.
I don’t see how standard revolutionary Marxism is “failure of pure theory.” The practical option is to get organized, something the CIA desparately does not want to happen. Fedjacketing me for being a consistent Marxist is unacceptable behavior for anyone that legitimately wants a better world.
Yeah well you have a lot of fucked up compatriots who seem to be doing a great job of torpedoing the movement under the same putity standards you seem to want to reflect.
Then pop quiz, what is the DSA? Use as many words as you are inclined.
I am not a Democrat either you are avsolutely huffing your own farts with your assumptions. I am a miserable fucking American that is ashamed daily by this being the best we have on offer and the only thing that disgusts me more is that peolle like YOU are the best we can try to counter with.
You are the enabler of our current fascist state. WWII Germans didn’t see themselves as the bad guy either until the dust settled
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The issue isnt that we come out during elections, it’s that liberals only start paying attention during election season. How’s that incrementalism working out for you? Your party has accepted a rightward shift for 30 years without question
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But I do know you, you are defending the empire to keep your own privilege.
Marxists agitate against democrats and republicans year-round, every year. You may tune in more around election season, but that does not mean the Marxists are doing nothing. Rather, Marxists understand that organizing is far more effective than voting under capitalism, and organizing has no such time constraints.
Accelerationism isn’t making conditions worse. Accelerationism is the belief that we should support the most competent capitalists to accelerate the concentration of capital, and thus the demise of capital. This means supporting the democrats, not republicans. I don’t think anyone here is an accelerationist, but if anyone had credible claim to be one, it would be the people advocating to support the DNC.
Instead, Marxists support organizing for revolution. This happens outside of the electoral system, at the grassroots level, and does not require timelines. Creating an organization that can educate the working classes on revolutionary struggle, that can struggle alongside workers at every major battlefront, and guide the working classes in a unified direction is the most pressing task for political activists.
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I don’t support the Republicans or Democrats, I support the working classes organizing their own political party and movement for revolution. I never once said I support the Republican party, it isn’t a binary choice no matter how much you seem to want it to be. I choose neither.
The fact is, the Democrats are more effective imperialists, and therefore they aid more effectively in accelerating the concentration of capital, and therefore crisis. This is the accelerationist position, which I disagree with. We cannot wait for this process, we must actively organize to overthrow the system rather than try to expedite its collapse.
I don’t see how standard revolutionary Marxism is “failure of pure theory.” The practical option is to get organized, something the CIA desparately does not want to happen. Fedjacketing me for being a consistent Marxist is unacceptable behavior for anyone that legitimately wants a better world.
Yeah well you have a lot of fucked up compatriots who seem to be doing a great job of torpedoing the movement under the same putity standards you seem to want to reflect.
Then pop quiz, what is the DSA? Use as many words as you are inclined.
The fact that you only notice us during election cycles says you only pay attention during election cycles. That’s on you.
That would be clever if you were capable of actually producing any results outside of constantly losing elections.
You’ve lost 2 elections to a fucking carnival barker and you want to lecture other people on how they vote?
I am not a Democrat either you are avsolutely huffing your own farts with your assumptions. I am a miserable fucking American that is ashamed daily by this being the best we have on offer and the only thing that disgusts me more is that peolle like YOU are the best we can try to counter with.
If you keep defending Democrats I don’t give a fuck what you call yourself, you’re a Democrat or liberal