Those hoses can’t be bent because of the water flow.

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    This looked like more work than just running the hose over the car. Seems like “everyone here sucks” type of situation.

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      Seems like time was lost with teaching a lesson…just toss the hose over the car, no? Yes they deserve a fine or something as well but seems excessive in this situation.

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    Smashing out the side windows to bend the hose more is a really bad look for these firefighters. They should have smashed the windshield and rear window for a straighter path to demonstrate their ability to apply logic over blatant aggression. If mapping out the most efficient route before smashing windows is too taxing, then they should smash all the windows to give immediate access to any arrangement; this would demonstrate efficiency and effectiveness.

    Also, tossing those trash bags off to the side like that could have hit a bystander, further inflating their aggressive appearance. Furthermore, their new placement is a tripping hazard. Those should have been stored safely inside the car.

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    Are those laminated side windows?

    Oof.

    I guess in a situation where you need to break your side window to get out, you’re just fucked then, huh?

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      They’re pretty common in high end cars and even well equipped midrange cars, AFAIK not that hard to break if you know what you’re doing

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    They do this all the time just to be dicks… It would’ve been safer and faster to just run it over the car … And this video should prove these specific individuals as liable for the damages.

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      Lmao, tell us you’re one of the dicks that park wherever you want without telling us

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        I park legally but that firefighter used the illegal parking as an excuse to deliberately delay aid to an emergency. The firefighter and the driver are both shitheads.

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        Dude, I’m with them. I clicked this for a justice boner, people that park in front of hydrants are selfish pricks, but the whole time I’m thinking “it would have been easier and faster to just go over the hood, or even under the front.” Every second counts and he wasted time breaking the windows and putting the hose through. It even looks like the hose has to bend more this way, I don’t know it that is enough to affect the flow rate, but it can’t help. And in the absence of a red curb (at least I don’t see one) it’s not unreasonable to think the area between the posts is the no parking area, and it looks like they’re outside of it. If they’re in it they’re barely in it. If I had to park that close, I would find another spot, but if I saw someone doing this I wouldn’t think as poorly of them as I would your average selfish parker.

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        The car isn’t even parked in front of the hydrant and smashing the windows out accomplished absolutely nothing here as you can see the outlet they connected to is pointing toward the hood and bumper of the car and not the windows. You sound like the type of person who calls people “criminals” if they ever criticize the police for misconduct.

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        More than one person can be an asshole.

        If you call me whatever nasty name you can come up with to my face, you’re an asshole. If I then knock you out and give you permanent brain damage, it’s completely fair to call me an asshole too.

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    this happens all the time. I saw it in the 90s doing ride-alongs with med-star (ambulance company). it’s gonna dump a lot of water into the vehicle, too, because hoses get use, worn and leak. And every time I see it I feel a little bit of joy in my heart because fuck you, stop blocking hydrants you ghouls.

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          Rules are rules? I totally agree. But deciding about punishment is, according to the rules, not the job of the fire fighters.

          So it seems you are all all-in on “rules are rules” sometimes, but fine with “who cares about rules” at others?

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            something tells me you’ve never handled a pressurized hose before and should stfu and let genuine lifesavers do their fuckin work, you goddamn pogue

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              Lol… Tough guy, eh?

              I thought we already agreed that this is neither required nor useful, and just punishment. Or you replied to the wrong comment?

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                you don’t need to be tough, just smart enough to not block access to fireplugs or man enough to admit it was a dumb decision and take your licks.

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      He wasn’t the only one doing things and in no way slowed down the whole procedure. There are many steps involved in getting water going and connecting the hose is merely one step. They also don’t need the hose from a hydrant hooked up to spray what’s already in the tank unless they showed up empty.

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        The amount of water in a tank is a fraction of what is needed to tackle a major fire. You’ve got about 3 minutes worth with a branch open at full flow.

        Because of that limitation, you also aren’t going to start an internal attack until you have a reticulated supply established, since running out of water while inside a building is a potential death sentence.

        If I were in the same position I would have simply run my feeder run around or over the car rather than messing about like this guy.

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      Yeah, some fire departments are known for doing this. It’s not about a shorter route for the hose, it’s about sending a message.

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        They should have done the right thing and gone around to get it set up asap… The beat the shit out of his car.

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      Yeah, it definitely would’ve been a more direct route draped across the hood.

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        Probably because this made the hose kink and they had to disconnect it all and run it over the car instead while the people inside the building suffocated to death.

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    Of course they can be bent. Also how fucking slow are they working. We measure this in seconds, not minutes. The tank in the engine is limited and ideally you try to run multiple hoses at once. And sneakers and shorts? Firefighters in the US are weird.

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      Could be a volunteer brigade. I’ve never seen anything like this, firefighters here are kitted the fuck out

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        They have the NYC FD emblem, which is s full-service FD

        They should get their overwidth truck privileges revoked, it kills good urbanism when they can’t reach a one-way or bike-only street. Bike paths are actually a common way for emergency services in non-American cities to bypass traffic jams, a well-known problem in NYC. Well, the mandated and enforced Rettungsgasse too, but standalone bike paths are wide enough for police, ambulaces and fire trucks to reach car-free spaces.

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    He wasted about two minutes in an emergency to do this. The guy illegally parked there, let the law enforcement handle it and do your job. He could have hooked it up and went literally any direction he wanted to without potentially damaging the hose on broken glass and wasting time doing so.

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    They did this in the movie Backdraft. Saw it as a kid in theaters. Ask my step dad about it, and he said damn straight you park in front of hydrate then they swill do this.

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    is the car even illegally parked? no painted curb or signs in sight, and the car doesn’t seem to be overlapping with the hydrant at all.

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      Anything within a certain distance of a fire hydrant is a no parking zone. I’m not sure if this differs at all in distance by jurisdiction (since every state has separate licensing). There are sometimes also signs on poles that explicitly say this.

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        That’ll depend on where you live. Without painted curbs I’d rely on the physical indicators. In this case the bollards in front of it. Car is outside the shown limits so I’m guessing this is legally parked and they just wanted a video.

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          Absolutely 100% not legally parked. Whether curbs are marked or not, you can’t park that close to a hydrant. 15ft is usually the standard minimum across the US.

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            usually

            Well there’s your problem, your country doesn’t standardise shit well enough.

            And there should still be indicators even if the rule is 15 feet. Someone from another state or country might not know, but a yellow line is a very clear indication.

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              I only said usually because I don’t live everywhere. Every state/major city I looked up mentioned 15ft. Also, how about just not being an ass and don’t park ANYWHERE near a hydrant, law or not.

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              As a country bumpkin who nearly only ever encounters hydrants at things like schools this was exactly my confusion. I’m not arguing the legality wherever this is but my conclusion matches yours

              Hell, I just looked at the street view of my nearest town and there are street parking lines within a body length of a hydrant.

              This firefighter is wasting time to be a dick to the driver at the expense of his crew and wherever the fire is

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    I’ve seen a car being towed/dragged out of an alley it was double parked in, so the fire brigade could gain access. They did NOT care how damaged it was in the process.

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      That seems like a legitimate reason to do so. There seemed to be absolutely no reason to do this in this specific situation though as it didn’t accomplish anything and actually made the angle of the hose much worse than it would have been using literally any other solution.

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    No warning lights on the car parked in an illegal spot? What an amateur

    I hope the firefighter enjoyed doing that as much I enjoyed watching it