• elbiter@lemmy.world
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    It’s not a war if one side has an army and the other one is just families being murdered.

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    the president of the United States wanted to build a Gaza beach resort with golden statues of him.

    Remember when he posted videos of this.

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      If you were born in a prison that your grandparents were imprisoned in and your parents were born into, would you be able to stop it from happening?

      When defending yourself from the prison guards after they mow the lawn is seen as terrorism, how do you defend yourself without being portrayed as a crazy murderer?

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      Also literally what the bad guy was doing at the end of ATLA before Aang stopped him.

      Somebody should take away Bibi’s firebending…

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      don’t worry you can still get around in the gaza metro

      it’s complete now so rebuilding work above ground can start

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          Well the adults resposnsible were children once so…

          E: For fucks sake, this was sarcastic. This is the shit some Israelis use to justify killing Palestinian children. You fail me fellow lemmings! :D

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            Considering Israel’s response to October 7th was to commit one of the worst genocides in living memory on the innocent people of Palestine and following your logic the children of Israel are as guilty as the war criminals in charge of Israel?

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              Lol, not even ranking close to the top death rates of current active war zones, but Jewish exceptionism strikes again.

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                Great, another dope who doesn’t understand that genocide is not a numbers game. Genocide is the intentional action to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group.

                We are well beyond proving Israel’s intent in this case, their acts in this genocide have been well documented. Israel doesn’t seem to understand that in 2026 everyone has a video camera in their pocket. We don’t actually know how many bodies are under the rubble in Gaza as it has not been cleared yet, with the Israeli government hindering this process as well as stopping any international journalists from accessing the area. All of the death tolls we have are estimates but even at the lower end I don’t think there has ever been a conflict where innocent civilians were killed at such a rate compared to combatants. We have the evidence of the systematic targeting of children with chest and head shots by the IDF. Cutting off water,food and medical supplies to Gaza which is still going on to this day.

                Jewish exceptionalism is the scumbags in charge of Israel thinking they will somehow get away with this. The tide is turning and as soon as the USA stops supporting Israel with their money, weapons and UN veto you dirty beggars will get what’s coming to you from your angry neighbours. From the river to the sea you scumbag.

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          Escalation is on the table then for both side of the debate with that thinking, nobody will cry if isreal gets wiped out.

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        Did Israel do anything before October 7? Or does it start from there?

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          Yes, they’ve done a lot.

          Apartheid. Meddling in Palestinian elections to ensure hamas in power (so that the PA is delegitimized and destabilized.)

          And terrorist acts.

          If we go back to the start- of the State of Israel- they’re also insurgents who used terrorists acts to over throw the nascent secular government and push out the already-on-the-way-out British government… because they didn’t want a secular government.

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        Nope, Israel just keeps ignoring it, and the western governments ignores that fact, for some reason…

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        What about this shows adequate retribution for an attack, and not outright indiscriminate destruction. You either can’t see out of your eyes, or you’re complicit, figure out which

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      You joke, but I can literally see someone, or some bot, posting that shit.

      I remember someone saying something about babies dying in a tweet, not mentioning, or even about the genocide, and some tool called them anti-semetic… Like telling on yourself a bit there

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      Nazis killed 13 million people in WW2, Israel killed 80,000 in this war. I think most people here can agree Israel is historically evil, but let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.

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        let’s not play genocide Olympics with Nazis, not a good look.

        You turn it into an Olympics by plucking two things out of their context and comparing raw death numbers, that is on you. A genocide is a genocide, so I am just placing them as two of the most evil states in the last century.

        But if you really want to compare numbers, Nazis killed millions of Jews during WW2 where crossing borders and occupying whole countries was possible. State of Israel killed about 80000 Palestinians in peace time (and after decades of policies implemented to enforce the opinion that killing civilians is a war crime) displaced millions by levelling entire regions with bombs and is still actively causing millions of them to live in starvation and extreme poverty. Impact-wise these are quite similar, but somehow you think these are incomparable? You think that if we were in WW3, state of Israel wouldn’t kill millions? I am pretty convinced they would. No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game, especially considering Nazi Germany paid the price (admittedly because they lost, otherwise I don’t think they would) where as State of Israel is walking out of this unscathed as it stands.

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          No need to play the “when you compare the two you lessen the atrocities done by Nazi Germany” game.

          No you are lessening the atrocities done by Israel. 80,000 is a massive number. Putting it against the largest genocide of the last hundred years is minimizing what Israel has done… I still think comparing the two is tasteless anyway because antisemites equate Israel with all Jews and salivate at the comparison.

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        Now add in all the countries that the US has invaded/bombed at the behest of israel.

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          All of our middle eastern direct deaths combined are under 1 million. But even a single death in war is horrific.

          There is no need to compare suffering. If anything comparing against an outsized disaster like WW2 only serves to minimize how horrific all of these present day wars are, even if the death tolls are smaller. I think people get some weird perversion in comparing Israel to Nazis, its just weird, imo. Highlight the actual horror that is happening today.

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          Nazi Germany was overwhelmingly Christian, but Christianity has about as much to do with Naziism as Judaism has to do with Zionism.

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            Christianity has about as much to do with Naziism

            Yet neo-Nazis will say that Jews are a primary opponent to Jesus Christ and have made themselves enemies of God to justify their antisemitism

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            There’s millions of Christian Zionists enabling this. The entire United States and a good portion of the west in general is just as guilty as Israel for allowing this to continue. Israel continuing to claim to represent all Jews while committing war crimes is antisemitism. Don’t drink the koolaid and blame “Jews” it’s the Zionist oligarch interests and colonialism fueling this fire.

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    Germans in the 1940’s paid a grim price for bad political decisions they made in the 1930’s

    And it was a collective price, even if you weren’t a Nazi, and even if you didn’t vote for Hitler.

    This is no different. Palestinians have been on the wrong side of things for 80+ years. Eventually the bill comes due for decades of bad political decisions (coupled with a lack of international support outside of extremist regimes in the region.) and the price must be paid. We are seeing that now, occurring in real time. Maybe the next generation will be ready for peace. There always seems to be another generation that follows the current one, no matter how many bomb vests they strap on their children.

    How about some google pics of the underground tunnels used to store weapons, and paid for by Iran. The target the IDF is really after in Gaza. So little discussion of that among all the pics of dead babies and talk of genocide.

    Absent historical context, the pics mean nothing. For that matter, all the deaths mean nothing too, absent proper context.