• BossDj@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    A kid punched my son in the back of the head. My son pushed him to the ground. The kids ran and told the teacher. Teacher: “did you knock him over?”
    Son “Yes because he was punching me”
    Teacher “is that true?”
    Kid “no, I never touched him!”

    My son got detention.

    Once Trump got elected, that was the end of teaching my kids honesty is worth a shit in this country.

    • 404found@lemmy.zip
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      9 hours ago

      Compassion is a part of happiness. Deceit is just going to lead them to anger. At least they can carry themselves knowing they have integrity instead of relying on the superficial wins that come from lying. What happens when they lie and still lose? What do they have then?

      What’s happened in this country was decades in the making. You’re comparing apples to oranges. I’m going to assume your kids weren’t born into extreme wealth they can use to get themselves out of trouble.

    • ten8tp@reddthat.com
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      Look, I get it. But you shouldn’t teach dishonesty. I was going to say we need people who care about others and our world instead of being completely selfish but the reality is we’ve been taking so much from resources and harming the environment that it’s probably too late. I’d like to believe my kids will have a better outcome when they’re adults but I’ll just have to die hanging on to that belief.

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        21 hours ago

        I’d rather teach my kids to be dishonest and unselfish. I really don’t see any point in being honest more than the necessary minimum.

        I don’t teach my kids to be either honest or dishonest. I tell them that they need to learn to find out whom to trust and in which area. From their interactions, I hope they can make up their minds on how honest they want to be.

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          19 hours ago

          Life is so complicated, especially now that I guess we’re kind of tasked with imparting some knowledge on our kids. I try to think about how I learned, and I like to think it was entirely from experience, but you absolutely absorb some of what you hear and see from your parents.

          I tell them to be giving, but sometimes you have to be selfish; be nice, but sometimes you gotta be firm with people. I basically tell them every person is out there living their own life, they have their own motivations, and you can’t waste time wondering what someone else’s definition of right and wrong is, and to just stick to your guns and don’t be a doormat. And then I second guess myself, because I still have no idea what’s going on.

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            10 hours ago

            Or worse, knowing that there’s something you need to change or inculcate, but having too many doubts on how.

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              10 hours ago

              Yeah, I’m generally pretty good, but I think it’s not uncommon, when you get real into the weeds on shit, for things to become ambiguous.

              I had to look up the word inculcate, so thanks.