Hello everyone! We are a two brother team who live Sofia, Bulgaria. Yes, the literal City 17 from Half-Life 2. We are making a game inspired by the book Obedience to Authority as well as media such as Papers, Please and the show Severance.

Here in Eastern Europe we have experience and past with harsh authority and authoritarianism. I mean look at our oppressive leftover architecture and forgotten symbols of authority. I guess the subject has always interested me… “Why do good people follow evil orders?”

What ever prejudice some media might have against people in Eastern Europe, I assure you we are some of the hardest working and welcoming people you will ever meet! And our game explores if you obey orders and how does your moral compass work (if at all). I invite you to wishlist it! https://store.steampowered.com/app/2719670/The_Milgram_Experiment/

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    1 day ago

    I read an article once that argued that the Milgram experiment is universally misunderstood.

    (in Psych101 they’ll tell you that the experiment proves that people will harm each other by being obedient to authority. A person in a lab coat is the authority in this case. people obeyed the lab-coat guy like 95% of the time)

    In the years between the experiment becoming famous and it being banned by ethical boards, many variations on the experiment were tried. Most interesting was a variation where the lab-coat guy was replaced by a police or army guy. In these experiments, the willingness of the participants flipped. With 90+% of the participants refusing to obey. This strongly suggests that what was compelling about the lab-coat guy was not authority after all.

    The article argued that the difference was people thought of the lab-coat guy as science and their participation wasn’t obedience to authority, but rather a sense of duty to the greater good. (culture regarded scientists and science very differently in the 50s & 60s).

    The Milgram experiment was a whole genre of psychological study I’ll call “why Nazi”. I think the idea that people will obey authority even when it’s evil is much less scary than the idea that your every-day Nazi thought he was helping; thought that a few wicked deeds now would lead to the best future for the most people.

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        8 hours ago

        Steam -> Library -> Milgram Demo -> cog icon above “Notes” -> Manage -> Uninstall

        or you can use the uninstall method of your OS (IIRC, for Windows it’s Programs -> Uninstall, for Linux you might need to look it up… but if you’re using Linux, you probably don’t need advice for this :P)

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    20 hours ago

    I played the demo and it’s a lot of fun. I still fully believe that non-lethal execution of the driver is the correct choice for Test 2.

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    No. Games are meant to be enjoyed recreationally as an escape. Not spent tiptoeing though a psychological minefield of “here’s another thing to test your guilt-reflexes…”

    Ffs…

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      22 hours ago

      Well that’s just like, your opinion, man.

      I find games to be a very good medium for all kinds of storytelling and experiences, just like TV shows can be vapid sitcoms or serious dramas or anything else.

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        22 hours ago

        Well, that’s just your opinion man. I’m all about kids having positive experiences from games, not self-doubt after having their head fucked with…

        But you do you! Celebrate the differences!

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          22 hours ago

          You’re the one saying “this kind is bad”, how’s that for “celebrating differences”?

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                LMAO! the obnoxious arrogance is almost unbearable! You seriously think kids don’t play games that are age restricted???

                Talk about adorable.

                Blocked. I’m not even going to deal with this nonsense.

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      21 hours ago

      Maybe you’re just not emotionally intelligent to play things that may better you as a person.

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      21 hours ago

      That’s only your taste, it doesn’t apply to everyone as you clearly imply in your comment, learn how to write your own opinion instead of talking for everyone else.

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    21 hours ago

    hey friend, the link you posted works (and I’ve wish listed) but for some reason typing in the name of the game did not return any results for me until after I clicked your link and wishlisted there. it could be a problem on my end somehow but it might also be worth looking into.

    good luck with the release!

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    2 days ago

    Good luck with this! I’m always excited to play games that try something different. I wish listed this.

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      2 days ago

      Oh thank you so much! Yeah, I hope it doesn’t get AI cloned since it’s mostly about the story, narrative and player choices!

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    21 hours ago

    You are selling this right, kinda too much good for my taste with these SEO, but anyway, seems like a game I would play so I’ll wishlist!

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    1 day ago

    Yes, I play Rimworld, the unnessecary amputation simulator where it’s ok to turn defiant slaves into fuel in a bioreactor as long as nobody sees you doing it, and nobody needs to ask how I have a dog leather couch.

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    2 days ago

    I don’t know if you remember but I tested the demo a while back. I’m looking forward to seeing the final game. Congratulations for all you’ve accomplished.

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    2 days ago

    I play games to escape, not to highlight reality, so no, I would not play a game like that. I stopped playing Witcher 3 because of the moral ambiguity in many quests.

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    2 days ago

    I still think about Papers Please after almost ten years. I won’t play it again but it left a mark. I will play your game too. Looks dope! Congratulations!