• ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    5 days ago

    I support Mamdani. I’m going to vote for the furthest left, viable candidates that I can. In most cases, in the short term, that’s going to be neoliberals. Hopefully all the candidates will be socialist eventually.

    Your argument is fully committed to owning this neoliberal that you’ve invented. I don’t care about what other people think about me. I’m way to close to the chopping block to care. So I definitely don’t care about your views on this other person you’re pretending to have an argument with.

    But you’re argument is an excellent example of how to be politically ineffective so I’ll keep dismantling it. People need to out grow this mindset of preserving their personal moral purity in order to be politically effective. Instead they’ll need to learn how to analyze what strategies are the most useful.

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      4 days ago

      But you’re argument is an excellent example of how to be politically ineffective so I’ll keep dismantling it. People need to out grow this mindset of preserving their personal moral purity in order to be politically effective. Instead they’ll need to learn how to analyze what strategies are the most useful.

      You’re spending time pressuring a post-anarchist voter to vote. Im a walking contradiction, but you won before this conversation started.

      I’m spending my time asking you to pressure the Democratic Party for a coherent platform. At the point in the election cycle where they could actually have something workable for the coming elections.

      They Democrats are our best electoral hope. Its time they took this seriously. If I promise to vote, can I ask you to demand the party infrastructure actually function?

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        4 days ago

        I don’t control the Democratic party.

        Your argument is inherently accelerationist. Everyone needs to know how self-destructive it is.

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          1 hour ago

          The Acceleration is already locked in, and denying it is Liberal Fantasy. Now if we wanna pump the breaks? I need your help getting tools to build a movement.

          Looking back at the failure of Kamala is not how to convince anyone. At all. Ever. Its a great way to get written of as a useless Liberal that can only be trusted to fill out a rigged ballot.

          If you wanna dissect Kamala’s failure, build a strategy to do better in that environment? Let’s go, I’m down. But wallowing in “Kamala should be President” is how you get treated like a dirty lib.

          Come join us in reality. The “Glorious Past” was fucking terrible too.