• ayyy@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    Did you forget all the COVID anti-mask and anti-distancing insanity? The still-not-fully-understood blatant theft and corruption around the PPP “loan” program that pilfered so much money it inflated the US Dollar at unprecedented rates? The intentional separation of children from parents by force?

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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      18 hours ago

      Democrats can’t say shit about Trump’s covid response after fully adopting the playbook themselves once they were in power

      If anything they were worse because they turned it into a bipartisan consensus on reality and made all the ‘normal’ people take their masks off.

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        17 hours ago

        If the public isn’t on board with something, it’ll cost the ruling party dearly. This wasn’t like 1918 where the public wanted to help each other by limiting the spread of the disease. This was rugged individualism, “you can’t tell me what to do.” Dems were honestly smart to get on board or a red wave would have wiped them out.

        When we want to change things like this, we have to change the norm in advance, not reactively.

        BTW epidemiologists I used to work with at the CDC have long said “the big one is coming” and after Covid, many of them said “this wasn’t the big one,” so we still need to change that norm, but like climate change and a dozen other pressing crises, we can’t deal with it because fascism.

        • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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          16 hours ago

          A complete inversion of reality. Democrats actively manufactured consent for the ‘end’ of the pandemic. They were pushing for a return to school before the vaccine was even out. The moment covid was their responsibility instead of a cudgel with which they could barely win the election, they started adopting the exact same language they were criticizing. Minus of course the meme shit like horse paste and bleach.

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      1 day ago

      The PPP was just part of the bailouts as well. They did direct cash infusions into the richest companies, and the Fed did a lot to make sure the rich didn’t lose any money, and in effect shoveled trillions of dollars to the richest.

      The PPP was forgiven to big corporations that got the money then fired workers anyway, while small employers that kept people on after getting the money, as was the point of the program ostensibly, were forced to pay it back later.

      The Democrats are fucking worthless I’m afraid I’ve to throw in there. Can’t even make hay out of this, or change an unjust system, when they are hated and have to win.

      • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        19 hours ago

        Were we talking about Democrats? Or did you just need to bring them up because you can’t abide a discussion that doesn’t criticize them as well?

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          19 hours ago

          You can’t escape it, if you give the establishment a pass and allow them to stay in control of the party we lose. Unless you are pretending to be one of us and helping fascists to overthrow the Republic in all but name in favor of putting the worst people in permanent control of the country, you need to face that fact.

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      17 hours ago

      I think being in a sane state kind of mitigated that COVID issue for me, but I agree on the PPP loan theft (immigration stuff was always bad, although I guess not children in cages bad). My point was, compared to this term, he was actually held back a bit.