• Coolbeanschilly@lemmy.ca
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      8 days ago

      We’re not talking about Palestine currently. Unless you’re purposefully trying to derail the conversation in order to blunt opposition to ORAGNE and his South African chimp.

      Incidentally, what do you think of ORAGNE policy on Gaza?

      • John Richard@lemmy.world
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        8 days ago

        Trump got elected because of dumb pro-genocide corporate Democrats who decided they should send Mark Cuban out to tell everyone how much they love corporate interests & Dick Cheney.

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          7 days ago

          You didn’t answer my question about the current administrations Gaza policy, nor will I waste time trying to discuss the minutiae of your statement.

          Either answer my question directly, or the conclusion that can be drawn is that you are an agent of the current administration trying to distract people from actually mounting a useful opposition against the current attempt to kill America as we know it.

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            7 days ago

            If I thought proud-Zionist Biden’s terrible policy on Palestine was indefensible, which Kamala said she couldn’t think of anything she’d do differently while pledging her unconditional support to Israel, on what planet do you think my position is in favor of Trump’s policy? They are both indefensible and if you want to know which is worse, it very likely will end up being Trump, but it hasn’t been realized thus far.

            It is clear already, in your mind if someone dares criticize the almighty Democrats then they must support Trump, or be “an agent of the current administration.”

            I am curious though, how’d that so-called “useful opposition” that you surmounted work out for you in the last election?

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                  6 days ago

                  Ok, so you’re a troll. Thank you for the clarification.

                  My statement still stands. You need to clean up your own mess, how you and your fellow citizens decide to do that is up to you. You do have the Declaration of Independence, the Second Amendment, and the ability.

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      8 days ago

      We get it. We live in a shitty, gerrymandered two party system thanks to FPTP and there is no true anti-war or anti-capitalist party. What’s your point?

      Saying “both sides bad” without mentioning one side being much, much worse is just being disingenuous. Not just that, but it attracts people on the worse side, who then will not accept criticism of their own side. Look at Jimmy Dore for a perfect example of this kind of audience capture.

      In this example, you have Biden on one side, who was being complacent in a genocide while saying publicly that he wants a ceasefire deal, but not doing what was in his power to actually make it happen, like cutting off arms and funding to Israel. On the other side, you have Trump who wants to nuke Gaza and commit ethnic cleansing himself (I’m sorry, I meant to say “displace Palestinians”) and rebuild it as a paradise in his image without Palestinians.

      Let’s just say Netanyahu publicly wanted Trump to win this past election, and there’s a good reason why.