The right wing activist and convicted felon's gesture was identical to the one Musk made at Donald Trump's inauguration The post Steve Bannon Gives Apparent Nazi Salute During CPAC Speech, Mirroring Elon Musk | Video appeared first on TheWrap.
Nah. Getting sued for libel is what these outlets should be absolutely proud to have sent their way. That’s literally a news story in itself. It would also means he’d actually have to defend it instead of posting Nazi puns on Twitter.
So if Elon literally lay down on the ground we couldn’t say he lay on the ground? You’re saying we would have to say allegedly? What he did is not in question, their argument was intent. It should be obvious that he lay on the ground but reported as possibly unintentionally lay on the ground. The action is clear as day and should not be up for dispute
Less than perfectly, due to the constraints of the system they are forced to operate within.*
You are, of course, free to start up a news agency that fulfills every ideal you hold close, just know that you’ll have to have a lot of funding if you’re going to be spending as much time in court defending against libel lawsuits as you spend on reporting.
In this case I think the point is to be on the nose about how fucking ridiculous it is - just from this article:
Steve Bannon made a gesture that is identical to a Nazi salute
Bannon made the gesture — extending his arm, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest, which is also what Nazi salutes look like
the gesture was also identical to one made by billionaire Elon Musk
extended his arm straight out, palm down, fingers straight, at an upward angle away from his chest. Which, whatever the billionaire’s intention, just happens to be precisely how a Nazi salute is performed.
Musk repeated the gesture. Here’s how that looked. <pic of Musk doing a Nazi salute>
I also wouldn’t be surprised if the DoJ would be specifically ordered to look at this case. When you’re challenging power, it makes sense to cross your Ts and dot your Is.
Having read the article, that doesn’t seem to be the case. The undertones of the writing seem to be “There have been some attempts to deny that these are Nazi salutes (and not from the people making the gestures), but plausible deniability is rapidly running out and it definitely looks exactly like a Nazi salute”.
They came to the same fucking interpretation as you did, but that’s still not good enough. “Apparently” they don’t just have to oppose nazis, they have to participate in your daily Two Minutes Of Hate. Clearly differentiating between objective observation and the inferences drawn from those objective observations IS A GOOD THING. So fucking fragile.
The space karen one was blatantly apparent, this was a pretty half assed attempt. Like he is too much of a bitch to put his contemptible fascist ideology on full display.
Apparent? Shut the fuck up.
Throwing in the word “apparent” is cowardly, but it’s also a lot cheaper than being sued for libel by a fucking billionaire.
Nah. Getting sued for libel is what these outlets should be absolutely proud to have sent their way. That’s literally a news story in itself. It would also means he’d actually have to defend it instead of posting Nazi puns on Twitter.
So at what point of doing something does it actually become the thing that it was?
Seems pretty obvious to me.
From a legal point of view it hasn’t been tried in a court of law, which is why words like “apparently” and “allegedly” are used.
So if Elon literally lay down on the ground we couldn’t say he lay on the ground? You’re saying we would have to say allegedly? What he did is not in question, their argument was intent. It should be obvious that he lay on the ground but reported as possibly unintentionally lay on the ground. The action is clear as day and should not be up for dispute
By that logic, it would impossible to report on literally anything.
Yes. It’s impossible to report objectively on capitalists with enough control to sue. This has been shown again and again.
That is literally what happens in US news when the subject involves a criminal offence or could be considered defamation.
Yet here they are, reporting on it.
Badly.
Less than perfectly, due to the constraints of the system they are forced to operate within.*
You are, of course, free to start up a news agency that fulfills every ideal you hold close, just know that you’ll have to have a lot of funding if you’re going to be spending as much time in court defending against libel lawsuits as you spend on reporting.
Yeah. They’re cowards because they don’t want to lose any money saying the truth.
In this case I think the point is to be on the nose about how fucking ridiculous it is - just from this article:
I also wouldn’t be surprised if the DoJ would be specifically ordered to look at this case. When you’re challenging power, it makes sense to cross your Ts and dot your Is.
Oxford’s top definition for Apparent is “clearly visible or understood; obvious”
And the second (which is how they are using it) is “seeming real or true, but not necessarily so”.
I think the third one is “brother, i really don’t wanna get sued for that shit.” Pretty sure they are using that one.
Having read the article, that doesn’t seem to be the case. The undertones of the writing seem to be “There have been some attempts to deny that these are Nazi salutes (and not from the people making the gestures), but plausible deniability is rapidly running out and it definitely looks exactly like a Nazi salute”.
Getting upset when journalists explicitly flag their interpretations is pretty fucked up and fragile.
“Interpreting” a sieg heil is pretty fucked up and complicit.
They came to the same fucking interpretation as you did, but that’s still not good enough. “Apparently” they don’t just have to oppose nazis, they have to participate in your daily Two Minutes Of Hate. Clearly differentiating between objective observation and the inferences drawn from those objective observations IS A GOOD THING. So fucking fragile.
Dodging shackles of the new Ministry of Truth
The space karen one was blatantly apparent, this was a pretty half assed attempt. Like he is too much of a bitch to put his contemptible fascist ideology on full display.