Remember the time when railroaders went on strike because they wanted to be treated like pigs?
Because pigs were treated better than railroaders. Pigs were valuable freight and deserved a long rest after being on a train for 12 hours. No similar regulation existed for the people who ran a train…
This will totally fix the diesel price problem. This country is more cooked than the planet itself.
Republicans want dead Americans.
That sounds safe.
Meth inks it will be a very stimulating trip on the interstates.
Need to have a little something left over for the lot lizards.
I was curious and looked up what you can drive in the UK/EU. It’s 9 hours. Twice a week you can push it to 10.
They’ve just doomed every person in a car on every major interstate.
No worries, we can just fly everywhere. Wait, what’s that, they just put AI in charge of air traffic control? Okay, yeah, we’re doomed.
Well, it’s one way to boost sales on the gas-guzzling, rolling tanks the US auto makers refuse to diversify away from.
Truckers arent going to be driving anywhere if the price of diesel doesnt slow.
I don’t think many people understand how that will affect them.
After being unable to convince anyone of anything that was going to happen and change even one mind, my only joy is watching them suffer the results of their shitty choices. My next high is scheduled for next year when everyone scratches their head on why the governemt needs to double the national deficit to bail out Dario and Sam.
Now that’s no reason to give up. After COVID hit, I had a coworker that was anti-vaccine, and she talked to me about it, because she assumed I was as well. I had mentioned something about how whenever I accidentally drop food on the floor, I eat it as a challenge to my immune system. She expected that that thought carried over to vaccine hesitancy. I later sent her an e-mail telling her that my trick of challenging my immune system, was exactly what vaccines were. Then dove into what vaccines actually are and how they work. She later thanked me, and said that I helped her and her husband finally go and get their shots. It was real cool.
So, sometimes, if you approach it the right way, you can still change peoples minds.
Not like I’m an expert though, I’m still running into a brick wall of willful ignorance every time I try to engage with my trump loving parents 🙄
Here’s the thing, Fox News outspends me all the money to none. I just don’t have a shot in hell. Also, I’m the one that has to think up factual arguments while the other side is comfortable screaming crazy racist shit if they think no one is looking. I’d rather talk to allies and push them to greater action than waste another minute detangling the conservative mind.
I hope they all die violent deaths.
Well they won’t change how they vote, IMO.
Is Elmo’s electric truck ready yet?
Volvo’s is.
https://www.volvotrucks.com/en-en/trucks/electric.html
Ford and GM canceled their electric delivery vans though. Perfect timing!
https://insideevs.com/news/776511/gm-brightdrop-production-ending-2025/
https://fordauthority.com/2025/12/ford-ev-van-also-cancelled-new-gas-model-will-take-its-place/
International is doing electric trucks too
American car manufacturers are terrified of having to compete with Chinese EVs, so they’re not even going to make them at all.
An outstanding long-term stragegy, but nowadays, even CEOs don’t give a damn about “long term”. They’ll take their tens of millions of $ compensation package and move on to another company, leaving the mess to the next one.
Capitalism at its top efficiency.
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Best I can offer is a Canadian diesel electric hybrid.
Now with 1,000% more toddler tantrum tariffs.
Edison is doing some crazy shit
Those are diesel-electric though. Effectively a diesel locomotive on wheels.
Bah, we don’t need to Commiedian Hybrid nonsense, we’re MURRICA. We will just conquer Commieda and take their oil to lower prices!
/s
Has been on the road for years and they’re expanding to Europe next year… Nothing close to original promised specs, but there’s videos on YouTube just asking their drivers what they think, they mostly like them.
Europe has had electric trucks from Volvo, Mercedes, MAN and Freightliner for years; forgive us if we’re not overly excited about the arrival of that ugly ass PoS…
I didn’t defend or promote it as a good thing, I just stated a fact. Pretending like it doesn’t exist just because you don’t like it or pedo-nazi Elmo doesn’t change the fact that it does…
Indeed, it does exist. I find it curious when neutral facts get downvoted.
I find that product curious and many design decisions completely out of touch with trucker reality. It will have a hard time in Europe because of it. There are plenty of offers on the European market, that have 600-900kWh capacity, already for a while, without the weird dysfunctional design.
its filled with ketamine.
It has the full self driving working right?
You know that scene in Logan with all the autonomous trucks driving around? That’s what it’s gonna be like.
We’ve got to remove private monopolies on rail lines so freight rail can be used efficiently as a major alternative to trucking.
Fun fact: it’s definitely not going to slow. It’s about to get even worse. Unless of course the government decides to subsidize the hell out of diesel to make it cheaper.
Not to worry. We can always increase the limit to 24 hours per day, and make them drag the trailers with bicycles.
We can just import more meth from the drug boats we blew up.
Lol. The U.S. is on a suicide speedrun.
As a non-American, I find it baffling and hilarious that many Americans are proud to work 80 hours a week. It’s not a flex. They’d regret having done so when they become too frail and forgetful at the old age. And all the money they saved and pension being collected will be spent on healthcare and medication instead.
They did not even live their life when they were young and they won’t even enjoy the remainder.
Didn’t live when was young. Can confirm.
Jokes on you, I’m young(ish) and not enjoying it already. Haven’t been enjoying it since about 2002.
We don’t even have pensions.
They’re fucking dumb
Propagandized == Dumb. No one is immune to propaganda, but propaganda can be overcome.
The dumber the better propaganda works. And Americans are dumb as shit. Don’t believe me, look who is president for the second time
Americans are no dumber than any other demographic. They have, however, been subject to a century-long propaganda campaign to instill subservience to capitalist ideology while those same capitalists have been dismantling any educational system or media outlet that might break that subservience.
Beware of the “Americans dumb” rhetoric, because a false sense of superiority is the exact thing that led Americans to accept the propaganda. It can happen to your country, too (and probably is happening, to be real).
50% of US citizens read at 5th grade level or lower. This doesn’t sound too terrible until you remember that those tests are actually comprehension tests. Majority of us have less comprehensive abilities than we expect out of children, and this was before the “ai” boom, you know it’s gotten exponentially worse already and will continue to decline at an ever accelerating pace. We genuinely are some of the dumbest motherfuckers our species has to offer.
I guess I’m distinguishing between innately dumb and dumb-by-design. Poor reading comprehension is a result of the intentional dismantling of our education system. It’s not the people’s fault, it’s the capitalists.
Look around the world. Many corrupt and evil people are taking hold of power.
Just like the Japanese and Chinese right?
Chinese have legally defined retirement ages close to Europe, so even if they have high working hours comparable to the US at least they don’t have to work until death.
The US has legally defined retirement ages too. And if you plan, I know malice afore thought isn’t your strong suit, you can have a decent retirement also.
apparently in academia, they think its a flex for PI to be working that much, granted the competitive to be hired at 4-year is pretty high.
Nah, it’s been a marathon this is just that last sprint before the finish.
The finish line is a cliff/societal collapse.
Even the original 14 is horrible. Here it’s 9-10 hours per day max, with a cap of 56 hours per week.
And required pauses.
The US has laws about taking breaks, but of course they’re woefully inadequate.
It’s now no more than 8 driving without 30 minutes not driving. Used to have to be off duty, but now it can be on duty not driving, so fueling or unloading or whatnot. So not a break per se.
I was about to say, they are alliwed 14 hour drives? Clownshit
Unless you only work a half week
If you’re driving 16 hours a day, then your cargo should probably be going by rail.
Well this is fuel hauling, so multiple stops or loads in a day to service stations. Even if they had rail service set up at the gas station for delivery, rail companies in the US hate small customers like that these days.
Just a couple of years ago in my neighborhood a truck driver was arrested because he offloaded 4000 gallons of gasoline at a gas station, then ran the hose down an embankment next to the station and pumped the remaining 8000 gallons into a creek. He did this because he wanted to go home and didn’t feel like making the rest of his stops. He apparently thought nobody would notice; for bonus points this was right next to a charter school which had to be evacuated while they cleaned up the mess.
He was arrested and sentenced to 20+ years in prison. This is the intelligence level that can get hired as a fuel truck driver (TBF I’m sure they’re not all that stupid).
Edit: just for funsies, the gas station where this happened recently rebranded as a “Freedom Fuel” station lol.
I’ve herd of people dumping the news papers they had to deliver in order to say they diliverd them. But this is different. Doesn’t the guy need to get the invoice signed at every station?
I think his strategy was to tell his bosses he had run out of fuel and wouldn’t be able to make the rest of his deliveries. But I dunno, the articles about this never said what his thought process was. I drive past this station twice a day and the stink from it was horrible. 8000 gallons is a lot of fucking gas.
This reminds me that years ago I was friends with a bunch of Red Bull girls. Their job was to pick up the Red Bull mini-cooper, fill it with cases of Red Bull and then drive around handing out free samples wherever people were while being attractive. They were very good at the being attractive part, but most days they would just drive to the river, dump the cases of Red Bull in it, and then go home and get high. Their bosses suspected something like this was going on and gave them all Windows Mobile PDAs that tracked their location by GPS. I checked out the tracking app (I was a Windows Mobile developer at the time) and it turned out it just logged their GPS coordinates once an hour into a plain text file. I showed them how to edit the file to make it look like they were driving around – just doing my part saving at least some people from trying fucking Red Bull.
Hm now I’m wondering how the volumes compare, between what one truck carries and how much one gas station stores.
I just noticed I have no idea how large those burried tanks are.
The only way this would be more efficient would for direct piping but this would be less efficient as you would need to create a network and not all stations would want to sign up. The airports in the UK operat this but this was so it’s harder to cut supplies off to airports as they are critical infrastructure.
rail has ludicrously expensive infrastructure and no way of adding new stops in less than multiple years.
It was made expensive by letting the oil companies force regulatory capture on it, then tear up all the rails they let could. There were more rails in the US 100 years ago then there are today. Adding stops didn’t take years when there were already rails near by to branch off of. The only reason adding stops is so hard now it because the cut down lines.
don’t train stops still need significantly more land than is practical for individual gas stations to have?
One train stop (utility freight, not passanger) is much larger, sure. But how many tons does it process compared to an 18-wheeler? Then, in high density urban centers where you have passenger trains, they normally put them underground. Meaning, the only “land” they take up is about the size of 2 pumps, without the accompanying convenient store. Meanwhile, they remove thousands of cars off the road per day.
It is unquestionably more efficient to run more trains for both freight or passenger. That is why oil and gas hate it. So they buy-in and stack the boards of the rail companies, beg congress for more “regulation and safety”, and cripple expansion with mandatory oversight comittees to slow down whatever gets through. All classic plays.
I think you’re missing the context where this is about resupplying gasoline to fuel stations. So the highway infrastructure is already there and you don’t gain anything by shipping a large load to a central place.
Tbh though if a rail line was built parallel to the road, it doesn’t seem prohibitively expensive to build a pump that can get the gas from a train. Though probably still not financially sensible for the gas station without subsidies or something.
and what about in less urban areas, where there are a higher number of gas stations per person? where you don’t need more than a semitruck of gasoline/desil/propane per week?
Rail can add and remove heavy rail temporary sidings in a matter of hours. When rail was the only powered freight option agricultural sidings would be put down to collect produce in a small area, then picked up and moved down the tracks a couple of miles, rinse and repeat. There are places in the world right now where narrow gauge light rail is placed into fields to collect produce, and picked up and moved multiple times for the same field.
A very rich man hundreds or thousands of miles away accepts the risks to other peoples lives as a great deal.
“Some of you will die, but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make”
- Lord Fuckwad.
Just that? I am sure true republicans can afford to do much more for the country, why not 24, or double that, 48! Hail Trump!
He truly is a genius.
The point is moot. With diesel skyrocketing they won’t be able to drive at all.
Trump is doing something Algore could only have wet dreams about… Trump is ending the Diesel and internal combustion engine (poorly planned acronymy). He might not like it but as soon as he is out and all the refineries are in shambles something has to replace all that. Probably hydrogen, and battery powered vehicles.
Toyota tried hydrogen years ago and it didn’t really catch on. If the global gas economy crashes, I know a lot of locations they could use as hydrogen fuel pumps.
It didn’t catch on because it’s stupid on multiple levels, from infrastructure engineering to realpolitik. Japan as a nation is just desperate for energy independence and pretending the hydrogen will be sourced from the expensive electrolysis and not cheap natural gas refinement was a way to get free government money.
They convinced themselves that all the petrostates, which includes America and Russia, would just abandon their current economic advantage to pay them billions of dollars to rebuild their entire vehicle fuel infrastructure, since they would be the industry leaders and the only major source of engineering knowhow.
Well I’d like to add that Ford did too indirectly and it works. I personally rode both a fuel cell bus and one with a Ford Hydrogen combustion engine and both worked wonderfully. The hydrogen was sourced from electrolysis at a wind turbine. It was a proof of concept. And most relevantly… Toyota is at this again. It actually never quit because it is a smart move. Hydrogen can be easily had from natural gas or water and natural gas or oil is already the normal fuel. So you start at normal, then you switch when normal is gone. It’s expensive but let’s remember, Japan is an island with no oil deposits and a ton of smart people. Ofcourse they would try to figure it out.
It is perfectly functional but it is not clever, unless batteries, even LFP ones, that need no rare resources, are absolutely no option for whatever reason (we are talking about a factor of two more energy needed for doing the same as something battery powered). Hydrogen simply is much more inefficient over the whole cycle, no matter what you do, because of fundamental physics. Smart people can’t rewrite those.
In Europe even the last hold outs and former champions of that technology are realising that.
Let’s say that the goal is to move cars around without polluting and that you have a sun, a planet with wind, water streams, waves and with radioactive materials that can be fused or fissed. But no oil because that pollutes.
Sure, but if you need twice the energy for doing the same, that creates a larger CO2 footprint and higher resource demand (ie also more pollution) than the more efficient alternative, even if everything is based on renewable energies. But that is maybe too theoretical, more practical is the issue that the inefficient technology will struggle to become competitive.
Trump is not that smart
It doesn’t matter. What matters is the guy is tamping and cramming all the bulls he can find into the oil business China shop when the rest of the world leads in clean energy. When the dust settles, my guess is people will still be cold in winter and hot in summer and will still not care about where their energy comes from.
Yeah I know. (Sigh of defeat)
…it might be a new benefit in hiring, we’ll compensate a per centage of your fuel costs…after two months…and we’ve earned interest on it…follow my rabbit hole for further financial advice…/s?
Then the industry practice will be to force all the truckers with than benefit after 1 month, 3 weeks, 6 days so they don’t have to pay it.
…you must be a graduate of my FAMILY accounting course, any problems with that?..menaces
This is crazy where i live its 9 hours manditory rest of 45 min after 4,5 hours maximum of 56 per week maximum 90 per 2 weeks. And manditory rest of 11 hours between shifts, we are still well suplied there is zero need for 14 hour shifts 12 is already crazy.
Ah yes, because we know Precision Scheduled Railroading with the freight train industry has worked so well, let’s legislate the means by which we can employ less of the already overworked staff under the guise of optimization, when in reality it’s yet another way to funnel even more money towards the top.
