Basically just the CPU fan, case, and PSU (if you’re lucky). If someone can figure out how to get Doom running on just those 3 things, young people will be able to ascend.

  • HubertManne@piefed.socialEnglish
    3·
    3 hours ago

    these are the components that people cheap out on but give the most bang for the buck when you increase quality.

  • qwerty@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    1·
    3 hours ago

    PC hardware got more expensive (as well as everything else) only in terms of fiat notes. If you measure it in hard assets like monero, ₿ or gold it keeps getting cheaper.

  • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 hours ago

    Been using my same hyper 212 from my old i5-750, now it’s on my i5-8600k. Love it, makes a significant difference.

    • Narann@jlai.luEnglish
      1·
      4 hours ago

      This, but seriously. Many PC components companies are overstocking and already have decrease their production to match demand.

      This is the moment to buy those tiny/cool/silent upgrades.

  • sleepmode@lemmy.worldEnglish
    16·
    13 hours ago

    Noctua was never cheap. They are gloriously overbuilt in a world of rifle bearing, built-to-fail bullshit at end of warranty schlock. Pay now or pay later.

    • boovard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      12 hours ago

      I’ve had my Noctua CPU fan for more than 15 years, never made a squeak or a noise. And I still get free upgrade kits from them to accommodate for new CPU platforms. Just have to send them a request. So I’d pay the price anytime.

  • bigboismith@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    7 hours ago

    Peripherals are dirt cheap now. I remember when I built my first pc and watercooling would cost as much as the CPU and the case as much as the psu (and that was just a basic metal box, before windows became standard)

  • Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    3·
    9 hours ago

    Is there a reason asides from branding that Noctua makes all of there gear in prune binge shit peuce? I’m not an RGB gamer boy, but I would love it if they had some options in black or charcoal.

    • Jump365@lemmy.zipEnglish
      3·
      15 hours ago

      Yeah this, there’s cpu coolers for half the price that cool better now.

      • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        14 hours ago

        You may know this already. The reason Noctua fans are so much quieter is because they spin more slowly and blow less air, so even low priced, entry level fans are more effective. They literally sell a lower performing, if well engineered, fan for a premium price mostly because of hype and brand recognition.

          • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            12 hours ago

            Tell me you don’t understand how PWM works without telling me you don’t understand how PWM works.

            I’m an electrical engineer so I’m really looking forward to the responses to this.

            • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
              10·
              7 hours ago

              That’s why there is a “?” and not a “.” or “!”. Because I wasnt sure and that’s what I thought to understand it as.
              No need to be a dick though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

              • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
                3·
                3 hours ago

                So sorry! I mistakenly assumed you were amongst the “downvoting for sharing information they don’t like” crowd that hit my original comment, so I read your comment as being passive aggressive. My response wasn’t any better than what I assumed BUT mine was entirely intentionally, so I was absolutely the one in the wrong. I apologize.

                I assumed your response meant “PWM will spin up the fan to equal RPMs regardless of model”, which is actually pretty similar to what some Nortua diehards have claimed on Reddit when I’ve criticized Noctua fans in the past.

                The other commenter has the right of how PWM works. Since it only modulates the frequency and therefore duration of on/off cycles, if one fan spins at a max of 6000 RPM while a Noctua equivalent tops out at 4500, PWM will only be able to modulate to speeds below that maximum.

              • zant@lemmy.zipEnglish
                10·
                10 hours ago

                Don’t be sorry because you’re not wrong and dude was just being a dick for no reason. Also a PWM signal is not a complex concept and it certainly doesn’t require any degree at all to understand.

                Simply put: you have an additional pin carrying the PWM signal, which is a simple squarewave. How much of that wave is high during a period is called the duty cycle and regulates the fan speed. Eg. if for 75% of the period the signal is high, then the duty cycle is 75%.

                So, while the phrase “they spin what they are ordered to do by the PWM” is not particularly well worded, it’s also technically not wrong.

                I really wish people would share their knowledge, instead of gatekeeping it to feel superior.

                • StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  3 hours ago

                  I wasn’t being a dick for no reason - I was being a dick because I thought THEY were being a passive aggressive dick, much like how you assumed I was “gatekeeping knowledge to feel superior”. Bad assumptions all around here.

                  I assumed they were suggesting PWM will cause an inherently slower spinning fan to spin at any RPM regardless of model, which is actually a response some Noctua diehards have used in the past when I point out what Noctua is omitting when they advertise their fans as being so much quieter.

                  Regardless, I apologized for my bad assumption and subsequent response. It was out of line, especially given the actual meaning and intent of the comment.

                • Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                  3·
                  7 hours ago

                  Ty :)

                  So the fan decides the max RPM possible and the fan controller (probably the Motherboard) decides the percentage of the available RPM with the duty cycle?

                • teuniac_@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  5·
                  9 hours ago

                  The username was a bit of a giveaway.

                  Their claim about Noctua is also not correct, or at least not generalisable to all coolers. I upgraded my CPU recently to a Ryzen 9 5950X, so needed to upgrade my cooler. The NH-D15 came out as one of the best options (that were also available second hand) when looking at cooling performance per dB. That ratio is what matters.

                  I ended up spending about $45. It ended up not having all fan clips with it, but Noctua sent those to me for free.

        • Jump365@lemmy.zipEnglish
          1·
          12 hours ago

          Well…sure but there’s people who reviee coolers with a decibel reader so they can equalize noise level when testing.

          Imo though air cooling is still louder than water cooling. I have both and while i appreciate thaf air colling is great too today and probably peace of mind, but a nice rgb liquid aio is also not expensive these days…specially compared to what the other PC parts cost now…

  • Donebrach@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    15 hours ago

    Shut the fuck up you little fuck. They’re gonna be upping the price to $90/ fan blade and also firing all the people who make the damn blades if this gets out.

  • BL4CKP1XX13@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    78·
    1 day ago

    I mean many modern cases have circuitry in them, such as RGB controllers or PWM fan hubs.

    Let me remind you the requirements for DOOM modders to get DOOM running:

    • Circuitry (optional)