• kerrigan778@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    I am not convinced any significant number of people voted for Trump because they supported Palestine. Feels like a massive straw man meant to stoke divisions in the left.

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      1 year ago

      No, they didn’t, but I think a lot of people didn’t vote for Harris who otherwise would have

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        Quite possibly but I think that has as much if not more to do with Harris massively failing to be the exciting not completely pro-establishment candidate we needed.

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          “I’m sorry. It was between literally the man who will destroy the country and told us as much and someone just not exciting enough. Gotta do better, Dems.”

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            This isn’t helpful, I never said they were smart or correct, I said I understand how we ended up here and I sympathize with people who are suffering and angry and very ignorant and susceptible to propaganda. The DNC didn’t fail at being objectively better, they failed at making people feel heard and convinced that there would be hope of real systemic change and not just roughly what we have had for the past 20-30 years.

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    There isn’t 20 million pro-Palestinian people in the US. You liberals don’t want to admit it, but it was YOU who stayed home on Election Day. You made all that fuss about us needing to elect your YASS QUEEN SLAY corporate-funded DEI “hashtag ally” plutocrat, then didn’t even have the decency to get off your fat fucking asses, and skip brunch and your wine break for one fucking day to actually do your civic duty and vote.

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      5 million is a small minority in a country of 300 million.

      5 million votes means a lot when it’s a close election.

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      I mean, honestly, I don’t think people protesting Democrats because of the genocide were what caused Dems to lose. I honestly believe it was because the Dems refused to acknowledge that times are hard for non-billionaires. That being said, anyone who voted for trump thinking he’d be better is an absolute fool.

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    Question. Would Harris have done better if she had a more tough stance on Isreal? Like what votes would she have lost if she committed to ending the genicide? The Arab and Muslim coalitions at the DNC told them that the Muslim and Arab vote was at risk if the Biden administration didn’t change course and that Harris would lose their support if she didn’t come out with a concrete plan to end the genicide…

    In my opinion it was a huge mistake to back Isreal in this election. It’s not like zionest or evangelical Christians were going to vote blue anyways. Why turn your back on millions of voters in swing states for genicide. Total head scratcher of a decision. Biden nor Harris said they’d work towards a two state solution or allow the UN to enforce and demiliterize both sides. The most support I heard from either was the day before the election. Harris said she’d seek a ceasefire but that was it.

    Voting is inherently transactional. The Arab and Muslim Americans told the party what they needed to do to secure their support and the party said no.

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      They would’ve lost the LGBTQ vote if they made a hard course correction against the only LGBTQ friendly country in the middle and condemned all those queer people to die.

      A rock and a hard place.

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    None of them voted for Trump. You can look at the voting numbers. Trump’s numbers are pretty much in line with what he got in 2020. He didn’t gain votes she lost them. People stayed home.

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        At a certain point Democrats are going to have to remember that they can’t just rely on the other side being worse. If you don’t sell yourself to your voters if you don’t give them a reason to vote for you then you’re going to keep losing. They act entitled to everyone’s votes. Entitlement is a big problem when it comes to Democrats. People didn’t respond to them saying it was Hillary’s turn. People didn’t seem to respond to them saying it was Harris’s turn. Democrats don’t seem to like democracy. They claim to, but when it comes time to participating democracy they’re not big fans.

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    I’m just gonna keep hammering this in for a while. 81 million Democrats voted in 2020, but only 71 million this year. Trump won by 3.5 million. But hey, at least all you righteous little angels aren’t “complicit in genocide”, right? Think about that while you polish your halos. YOU did this.

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      I love how you said “complicit in genocide” unironically.

      Really shows low standards have fallen for Democrats.

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        Denotes sarcasm. Trump et al. Will increase the genocide instead of having a shot at stopping it. They are still complicit in genocide, more so, arguably

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          Absolutely more so, not voting against Trump was morally reprehensible because of what he will do to Gaza as well as people here

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    I have the feeling that since the vote is over, a lot fewer people are here to defend their “ron’t vote for harris because palestine” stance. Like something was switched off…