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    Frankly, I don’t even think Hillary gives a shit about covering for Bill at this stage- The argument that anyone is trying to protect Bill is idiotic.

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      And if she did give a shit about covering for Bill in the past and did anything to meaningfully do that, then by all means, lock her up too.

      This shouldn’t be political. I don’t care if there was a stupid slogan for that chanted by idiots, a broken clock can be right sometimes.

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        Like giving us the sitting POTUS as a candidate in the first place? Worshipping at the altar of Kissenger and Nunn? Color revos? Or any number of things during her tenure as Secretary of State?

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          Those are political things. Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

          I was thinking more along the lines of the “helping cover up pedophilia and human trafficking” thing. That’s a crime worthy of prison time.

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            She was voted out of power. And then we got Trump.

            I’m no fan of Clinton, but rather a million times her than Trump. But the US clearly needs better candidates.

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              Certainly, she would have been a better president than Trump. But that’s damning with extremely faint praise. A rotten turnip would have been a better president than Trump.

              I’ve long tried to tell Americans that they need to spend their effort on the party primaries, that’s the last chance for actual options to be considered. Once you get to the election itself the only thing left to evaluate is “which is the lesser evil?”

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                When the campaign started in 2015, I thought Clinton vs Bush would be the worst lineup ever. I had no idea then that an even worse one was possible.

                I don’t know how Americans always manage to get the worst possible candidates winning their primaries.

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            Those are things she should have been voted out of power for, not locked up for.

            Everything is political, my friend. She should absolutely face consequences for her role in the heinous war crimes committed while she was secretary of state.

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              We’ve got literal piles of active Nazis and you want to go after Hillary for doing status quo shit.

              Yeah, okay. Let me add her to the list. I think I’ve got a spot here at #187.

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                Don’t worry, I want to go after the fascists. But I reject the assertion that making life worse for Americans is somehow more morally wrong than making life worse for Libyans. In fact, I will go so far as to say that if you are willing to hand wave away atrocities as “status quo shit” then it makes sense that fascism is where things end up.

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                  But making life worse for more groups is objectively more morally wrong than making life worse for fewer groups.

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      I don’t know if that was a marriage of convenience/business since the beginning, but it sure seems to have got there eventually.

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      Right? The time when there might have been some kind of large amount of people wanting to cover for him was maybe…2 and half decades ago? The guy isn’t in power, no one cares enough for any of that…

      It’s mostly the butthurt cons that were spreading black helicopter nonsense and swapping copies of the Clinton Body Count over email back in the 90s that are still obsessed with Bill (and Hillary).

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    Frankly I love this, because now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.

    Is Bill Clinton a pedo for associating with Epstein? Or are they going to walk back all of their statements and say Clinton did nothing wrong writing a sex trafficker a birthday card?

    All the Democrats I know are fine with locking him up if evidence against him surfaces, but boy howdy is it gonna do a number on the conservatives in my life.

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      now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.

      If they weren’t shameless hypocrites, yeah. You really think they’ll have any issue saying Clinton is a pedo for associating with Epstein, while in the same breath saying Trump did nothing wrong for that exact same thing?

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      Frankly I love this, because now we get to watch the conservatives squirm.

      They really aren’t squirming. We have to stop letting the stupid algorithms and memes we subscribe to color our thinking about the reality of social divides.

      The right broadly is happy as pigs in shit right now. They DO NOT CARE about Epstein or any of the other “scandals” broadly. They’re just happy their angry, orange Jesus is making the nasty, nasty liberals and trans kids cry. They wanted all of this, they don’t care about crime and law and consistency and leadership and the economy and policy. They just care about the narrative and the narrative they are hooked into right now is that the left broadly is screaming in rage and they LOVE IT.

      There are some here and there who are really uncomfortable and it may be a wedge issue for them, but don’t get fooled by amplified minority voices on any topic.

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        The minority voices here are more important than you think. The hardcore MAGA base is not that big, and they need more mainstream conservatives to go along with it–the ones who say “I hate Trump, but Hillary/Biden/Kamala would be worse”. You start cleaving away pieces of MAGA, and it will fall apart as a political movement.

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          I don’t know. With everything that was known about Trump from his entire history, first term, j6, and campaign ‘promises’, you’d think he wouldn’t have been electable, much less actually win. But here we are, with a complicit congress and enabling supreme court (maybe that’s the other way around), and the wholesale destruction of safety nets, regulatory bodies and systems.

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      to them, trump can do no wrong, so anything he does gets excused. they’ll happily tear down others for doing the same things that trump did. trump humpers don’t operate on logic

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    Bill Clinton was an FBI informant infiltrating the cabal of shadowy pedophiles. I will literally die for Bill Clinton. See source.

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    Lock him up if there’s enough evidence of a crime. After going after Trump. I don’t care about party or celeb status if they did such things.

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    I don’t care if the list has Karl Marx, Jesus and my dad on it.

    Anyone on that list needs to be held accountable.

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      Plus, the guy was way wrapped up in financing stuff, which just attracts other money-grubbing people anyway. Same with Harvey Weinstein, where they use the money and cloud of flies buzzing around them as the cover if they get caught. They use the ones that didn’t know about their crimes as protection. Fully disgusting, but such is the thrall of money I suppose.

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    The same release also includes confirmation of the Trump “wonderful secret” note that he claimed was a hoax, and is currently suing the WSJ for billions for reporting on.

    Wonder if he’ll withdraw the lawsuit, or whether the whole thing was just another “it’s not a bribe, it’s a settlement” scam.

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      Wonder if he’ll withdraw the lawsuit

      Doubt it.

      He will toss out as many roadblocks for as long as possible to continue to threaten the WSJ and try and delay any further releases from them or any other media.

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    The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”

    But it doesn’t matter. The oligarchs don’t pay for their crimes. They don’t even get charged. Do you want to see them pay? I hear there’s a discount on pitchforks recently seeing as there’s nobody to work the fields.

    No oppressors ever walked away peacefully at the request of the oppressed. Just sayin’

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      The new take: “Epstein was a popular rich guy, everyone knew him and wished him well! It doesn’t mean they ‘knew’ him! Nobody knew what he and Ghislane were up to!”

      Not exactly “new”. The recognition that guilt by association is a fallacy and a hallmark of an undeveloped, irrational mentality has been around for a while. The unsound indulgence of biases such as confirmation bias & emotional reasoning is justly criticized.

      If you want to discredit your position though, and make serious inquiry look bad so people can point at you & say

      See? These people are irrational! How can we take them seriously?

      then this is a great way to do it.

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    And notice we’re not frothing at the mouth falling all over each other to protect him. Throw his old ass in jail I don’t care!

    Life in prison is too good for pedos. They should be castrated and have their feet removed. Full stop.

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    Ok.

    He’s not president. And when he was our economy was stellar.

    But put him in a cell too. I’m down with that. Because I’m not in his cult.

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      As president, Bill Clinton benefitted from pretty much the entirety of the Internet boom. He had nothing to do with that great economy, but he did help set the gears in motion for the 2008 mortgage crisis. He also took advantage of the great economy to dismantle or cripple most of the federal safety net programs and kneecap unions.

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        Dude was elected twice in checks notes Arkansas?! Surprised he didn’t club Medicare, and its recipients to death like Don Jr. wishes he could to an orphanage of defenseless baby seals.

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    Clinton met with Netanyahu in the Oval Office in February 1997. Subsequently, according to testimony Lewinsky gave to the special counsel’s office, Clinton’s secretary Bettie Currie reached out to Lewinsky to invite her to an Oval Office meeting, telling her Clinton “had something important to tell her.”

    It would turn out to be their final sexual encounter, but Clinton also used the opportunity to tell her that “a foreign embassy” had tapped his phone and recorded their conversation, Lewinsky said. Clinton did not specify which embassy, though the meeting with Lewinsky came the month after his meeting with Netanyahu.

    https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/did-benjamin-netanyahu-blackmail

    This is the picture that Jeffrey Epstein had hanging in his house.

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        Clinton sure looks guilty, but the person who posted this, is just trying to deflect from the orange taint that it’s lips are attached to.

        You can hang more than one pedo on a gibbet, there’s plenty of room for Clinton alongside the obese decaying corpse of the serial molester in the WH, but these dumbass magats can only try to deflect from their master’s crimes and shame.

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            good catch. i only read the last sentence. im getting tired and aughta take a break from internet for a bit.

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      And I keep telling you, every time I see you’ve posted this, that Clinton is not POTUS and is not the person trying a cover up, currently. If Clinton is guilty, you can hang him right alongside the bloated, decaying corpse of Donny 2 Inches !

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        Your partisanship has blinded you from the larger issue that Israel is blackmailing Democrats and Republicans alike.

        Also, I don’t know you, I don’t really keep track of what strangers say to me on the internet.